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SIG:Correspondence

2011-10-21T08:12:59Z

Bwbohl: /* Minutes / Results / Goals */ removed acronym that only was plausible from the minutes subpage

== News ==

* I created a [[SIG:Correspondence/ODD_work|new page]] for the discussion of a ''correspondence odd file''--[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 09:43, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

== Introduction ==
The TEI Special Interest Group on Correspondence seeks to bring together scholars interested in creating digital scholarly editions of correspondence. The goal of the SIG will be to discuss and develop sample tagsets (including suggesting additions/modifications to the TEI Guidelines) for varying forms of correspondence as well as to create tutorials and best practice models.

Because the initiative for this SIG emerged from editorial work with 19th century letters, the organizers of this SIG have focused on these types of materials. However, we want this SIG to be more encompassing, embracing varying types of historical and literary correspondence including epistles, telegrams, postcards, etc., and perhaps other types of documents that share features with physical written correspondence like diaries, diary entries, letters to the editor, e-mail, blogs, etc.

The common feature of these sorts of text is a generally formalized physical appearance (e.g., an envelope for letters) and structure of content (i.e. address field, special formulas for opener and closer). [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/da03.xml DALF] was one of the best documented projects in this area developing specific DTDs for those needs in P4: this may be a starting point for further work in P5.

Initial topics for the SIG Correspondence may include:
* the handling of the envelope and postal addresses
* the formal description of correspondence as a written dialogue between an author and an addressee
* correspondence-specific bibliographical data within the metadata section

== Activities ==

The SIG runs a mailing list, which you can join by visiting http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-corresp-sig.html .

=== Topics currently under discussion ===
* The content of a special '''correspDesc''' element
* The content model of '''postscript''': look at the [[Collection of Postscript-Examples]] and the contributions to the [[ps-discussion]].
* How to deal with '''enclosures''' or '''attachements''' to a letter
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, etc.
* diary entries
* definition of <signed> does not correspond with its actual use in the P5 guidelines
* address now in <p> but not in <div>: maybe not a good idea
* notification of addresses (different in different parts of the world). Could this be handled more adequately than just with datelines?

=== Meetings ===

==== Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 ====

The meeting at Wuerzburg will be on Oct 15, 2011 from 9am to 10:30am in room 1.003. Proposal of an Agenda:
* 1. New members / projects / demands
* 2. Short survey of the development of the SIG and the topics discussed
* 3. Views of the group about proposing a <correspDesc> (or similar) element or not
* 4. Future activities of the SIG: P5-Customizations for Correspondence ("Dalfy" et al.) / Special Guidelines (TEI by example) / Proposals / Next Steps
* 5. Roadmap for 2012
* 6. Website and Wiki

===== Minutes / Results / Goals =====

For minutes see [[SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015]], for a short list of goals deduced from the discussion see below.

We came up with some future goals for the SIG:

* PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi
* MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization
* MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: collect examples and find out what people have done
* MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: develope best practice models
* LONG-TERM GOAL: make a compressed proposal

==== Zadar, Nov 13, 2010 ====

Participation: around 5 people

1. Peter gave a report on last year's activities
* Task force ‘Dalfy’ was established after the Ann Arbor Meeting: Markus Flatscher, Bert Van Raemdonck, Peter Stadler
* Goal: Mapping of DALF (P4) to TEI P5 as a basis for further work on a correspondence customization
* But: Momentum got lost …
* Further: Some discussion on TEI-L about "signed vs. salute"

2. A brief look on open questions
* Correspondence meta data: correspDesc?
* The content model of postscript (cf. the Collection of Postscript-Examples and the contributions to the ps-discussion.)
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, byline etc.

3. Attempt to create a roadmap for 2011
* Peter suggested a second attempt for a grant to achieve the mapping of DALF to P5
* Discussion about possible fundings for such an attempt
* review of the last failed TEI grant proposal: it was criticized by the present panel members that no preliminary work was (visibly) carried out
* Susan suggested to first initiate a survey on the correspondence list

4. AOB
* nothing

==== Ann Arbor, Nov 14, 2009 ====

Business and working meeting during the annual members meeting.
'''Participants''': Syd Bauman (SB), Markus Flatscher (MF), Elena Pierazzo (EP), Malte Rehbein (MR), Paul Schaffner (PSc), Peter Stadler (PSt), Bert Van Raemdonck (BV)

The business meeting was attended by MF, PSc, PSt and BV and - since the number of participants allowed it - was an informal talk about the different projects, the last meeting at London and the "correspDesc" PS had proposed there as well as the question whether editing correspondence from printed (secondary) material needs to treated differently than correspondence from manuscript source material. Work on the roadmap was postponed to the working meeting.

The working meeting was attended by all above mentioned participants who agreed on the need for a customization of some of the P5 elements (and element classes) for encoding correspondence. Question is of course: how?
* P5 has introduced some elements that were inspired by what had been done earlier in DALF (P4), but not all P4 customizations in DALF are actually rendered in P5 (and vice versa). Hence, a comparison of both should be a good starting point to eventually come to a new ODD for encoding correspondence, and maybe even for introducing an actual module for future TEI Guidelines.
* MF, PSt and BV agree on doing such a mapping together. Since BV is like the only DALF original left, he will coordinate this: he will split the work up, and will be contacting MF and PSt for further arrangements. [UPDATE: Edward Vanhoutte and Ron Van den Branden agreed to work on this with BV face to face and then get back to MF and PSt afterwards. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 07:04, 27 November 2009 (EST)]
* Before X-mas, there should be a conference call to catch up on how the mapping proceeds. PSt will contact Dan O'Donnell for funding.
* Bugs and absurdities in P5 regarding correspondence should be posted on Sourceforge. Elena Pierazzo will be the liaison between the SIG and the TEI Council. She will help SIG members to report our findings through Sourceforge or otherwise.
* The mapping should result in a new ODD. SB is willing to help us create it. The new ODD should somehow be more or less DALF-like. Hence, the working title of the ODD is 'Dalfy'. Dalfy will be an oddified version of DALF where obviously identical concepts will already be mapped to their P5 equivalents (therefore Dalfy != DALF).
* After the mapping is done, useful elements (or concepts, structures) that are neither in DALF or in P5 yet, should be listed. Members of the SIG are welcome to suggest their own 'favourite missing elements'.
* With Dalfy as starting point we can than try to rearrange and modify it to come to a new Correspondence ODD (no code name yet!) that should resolve all problems and satisfy all needs...
* Issues that came up during the meetings concern <address> (and multiple addresses within one letter) (SB and EP), <signed> (everyone), endorsements as well as correspondence by committee (PSc)
* Besides the work on Dalfy PSt shall finish his work on oddifying his <correspDesc>.
'''Roadmap/Milestones''':
* Before Christmas: Teleconference about the mapping (MF, PSt, BV)
* Febr. 10, 2010: Mapping done
* July, 2010: Next SIG meeting at Digital Humanities conference (London) on new ODD

[Minutes PSt and BV]

==== London, Nov 8, 2008 ====

The first section (14-15:30) saw short presentations of current projects by:
* Tim McLoughlin: James Barry's letters
* Hilde Bøe: eMunch project (assisted by Ellen Nessheim Wiger with the Henrik Ibsen correspondence)
* Peter Boot: correspondence of Vincent van Gogh
* David Sewell: correspondence projects published via ROTUNDA
* Deborah K. Wright: correspondence of Matthew Prior
* Peter Stadler: correspondence of Carl Maria von Weber

The second section (16-16:45) had to be shortened due to organisational necessities but saw general discussion about
* the content model of postscript which is rather restricted and does not allow for an i.e. '''head''' element. Everyone was encouraged to send examples via the list. [Let me add that the same holds true for '''address''' --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]]]
* the need and the possible content for an '''correspDesc''' element within '''sourceDesc'''. I will try to create an odd file with the necessary additions to the schema as a starting point for further expertise. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]].
* correspondence as an event. Lou pointed this out as similar topics were discussed in the ontologies SIG.

== Correspondence Projects ==

Please add your projects alphabetically with link and (if possible) a short description!

=== Ongoing Projects ===

* [http://gams.uni-graz.at/fedora/get/container:rollett/bdef:Container/get The Letters of Alexander Rollett]. A project of the Center for Information Modeling in the Humanities (ZIM) at the University of Graz.
* Alfred Escher Correspondence. A project of the Alfred Escher Foundation, Zurich [http://www.alfred-escher.ch (Alfred Escher-Stiftung)]. Edition of the correspondence of Alfred Escher, influential 19th century Swiss politician and entrepreneur (e.g. Credit Suisse, Gotthard railway), comprising several thousand letters. At first, an edition of selected letters to and from Escher will be published in book form, including rich annotations. The first volume of the series is already available. Later on, the correspondence of Alfred Escher will be made available online. The correspondence covers topics as diverse as politics, economics, education, railways, banks, insurance.
* Digital Archive of Letters in Flanders authors and composers from the 19th & 20th century, [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF]
* ''Emily Dickinson's Correspondences'' (public version not yet online), to be published under the [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu Rotunda] imprint by University of Virginia Press. An edition of selected correspondence to and from American poet Emily Dickinson, with MS facsimiles and rich metadata capturing physical details of the manuscripts.
* Gundolf-Elli. Correspondence between Friedrich Gundolf and Elisabeth Salomon (George-Kreis). Project at the German Literature Archive. There is no website, yet. For more information use the mailing list.
* eMunch. Edvard Munch's written material: Complete letters, diaries and writings, [http://www.emunch.no/eng/index.htm] (Updated and expanded 15.06.2009)
* Weber, C.M.v.: Complete letters, diaries, writings and compositions, [http://www.weber-gesamtausgabe.de/ Carl-Maria-von-Weber-Gesamtausgabe] (at the moment german only)

=== Completed Projects ===
* [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/dmde The Dolley Madison Digital Edition], part of the University of Virginia Press's [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/ Rotunda] series. This is an ongoing publication, but the first two "volumes" are online. Currently the underlying data is tagged using the [http://adh.sc.edu/ Model Editions Partnership] variant of TEI (P4), but we are also exporting and transforming the documents to TEI P5 for interoperability with other material. (Contact: [mailto:dsewell@virginia.edu David Sewell])
* [http://www.vnsbrieven.org/VNS/?lang=en Van Nu en Straks: Brieven / Letters], Online edition of the correspondence concerning the literary journal 'Van Nu en Straks' (1419 letters). The annotated letters contain references to ca 2500 persons, 500 places, 1000 titles of books, 650 journal articles and 350 poems. A network of 3600 hyperlinks facilitates intuitive and associative consulting. Project at the [http://www.ctb.kantl.be Centre for Scholarly Editing and Document Studies] / Royal Academy of Dutch Language and Literature (KANTL-CTB, Ghent-Belgium) and Ghent University (Belgium). This project is part of the broader [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF-project].
* [http://www.vangoghletters.org/vg/ Vincent van Gogh, The letters]. A full edition of all the extant correspondence of Vincent van Gogh (900 letters). The edition includes full transcriptions (in Dutch and French), translation into English, facsimiles, extensive annotations and about 2000 illustrations.

[[Category:SIG|Correspondence]]

SIG:Correspondence

2011-10-21T08:11:36Z

Bwbohl: /* Minutes / Results / Goals */ added bullet-points to goal list

== News ==

* I created a [[SIG:Correspondence/ODD_work|new page]] for the discussion of a ''correspondence odd file''--[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 09:43, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

== Introduction ==
The TEI Special Interest Group on Correspondence seeks to bring together scholars interested in creating digital scholarly editions of correspondence. The goal of the SIG will be to discuss and develop sample tagsets (including suggesting additions/modifications to the TEI Guidelines) for varying forms of correspondence as well as to create tutorials and best practice models.

Because the initiative for this SIG emerged from editorial work with 19th century letters, the organizers of this SIG have focused on these types of materials. However, we want this SIG to be more encompassing, embracing varying types of historical and literary correspondence including epistles, telegrams, postcards, etc., and perhaps other types of documents that share features with physical written correspondence like diaries, diary entries, letters to the editor, e-mail, blogs, etc.

The common feature of these sorts of text is a generally formalized physical appearance (e.g., an envelope for letters) and structure of content (i.e. address field, special formulas for opener and closer). [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/da03.xml DALF] was one of the best documented projects in this area developing specific DTDs for those needs in P4: this may be a starting point for further work in P5.

Initial topics for the SIG Correspondence may include:
* the handling of the envelope and postal addresses
* the formal description of correspondence as a written dialogue between an author and an addressee
* correspondence-specific bibliographical data within the metadata section

== Activities ==

The SIG runs a mailing list, which you can join by visiting http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-corresp-sig.html .

=== Topics currently under discussion ===
* The content of a special '''correspDesc''' element
* The content model of '''postscript''': look at the [[Collection of Postscript-Examples]] and the contributions to the [[ps-discussion]].
* How to deal with '''enclosures''' or '''attachements''' to a letter
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, etc.
* diary entries
* definition of <signed> does not correspond with its actual use in the P5 guidelines
* address now in <p> but not in <div>: maybe not a good idea
* notification of addresses (different in different parts of the world). Could this be handled more adequately than just with datelines?

=== Meetings ===

==== Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 ====

The meeting at Wuerzburg will be on Oct 15, 2011 from 9am to 10:30am in room 1.003. Proposal of an Agenda:
* 1. New members / projects / demands
* 2. Short survey of the development of the SIG and the topics discussed
* 3. Views of the group about proposing a <correspDesc> (or similar) element or not
* 4. Future activities of the SIG: P5-Customizations for Correspondence ("Dalfy" et al.) / Special Guidelines (TEI by example) / Proposals / Next Steps
* 5. Roadmap for 2012
* 6. Website and Wiki

===== Minutes / Results / Goals =====

For minutes see [[SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015]], for a short list of goals deduced from the discussion see below.

We came up with some future goals for the SIG:

* PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi
* MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization
* MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: collect examples and find out what people have done
* MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: develope best practice models
* LONG-TERM GOAL: make a compressed proposal (EP)

==== Zadar, Nov 13, 2010 ====

Participation: around 5 people

1. Peter gave a report on last year's activities
* Task force ‘Dalfy’ was established after the Ann Arbor Meeting: Markus Flatscher, Bert Van Raemdonck, Peter Stadler
* Goal: Mapping of DALF (P4) to TEI P5 as a basis for further work on a correspondence customization
* But: Momentum got lost …
* Further: Some discussion on TEI-L about "signed vs. salute"

2. A brief look on open questions
* Correspondence meta data: correspDesc?
* The content model of postscript (cf. the Collection of Postscript-Examples and the contributions to the ps-discussion.)
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, byline etc.

3. Attempt to create a roadmap for 2011
* Peter suggested a second attempt for a grant to achieve the mapping of DALF to P5
* Discussion about possible fundings for such an attempt
* review of the last failed TEI grant proposal: it was criticized by the present panel members that no preliminary work was (visibly) carried out
* Susan suggested to first initiate a survey on the correspondence list

4. AOB
* nothing

==== Ann Arbor, Nov 14, 2009 ====

Business and working meeting during the annual members meeting.
'''Participants''': Syd Bauman (SB), Markus Flatscher (MF), Elena Pierazzo (EP), Malte Rehbein (MR), Paul Schaffner (PSc), Peter Stadler (PSt), Bert Van Raemdonck (BV)

The business meeting was attended by MF, PSc, PSt and BV and - since the number of participants allowed it - was an informal talk about the different projects, the last meeting at London and the "correspDesc" PS had proposed there as well as the question whether editing correspondence from printed (secondary) material needs to treated differently than correspondence from manuscript source material. Work on the roadmap was postponed to the working meeting.

The working meeting was attended by all above mentioned participants who agreed on the need for a customization of some of the P5 elements (and element classes) for encoding correspondence. Question is of course: how?
* P5 has introduced some elements that were inspired by what had been done earlier in DALF (P4), but not all P4 customizations in DALF are actually rendered in P5 (and vice versa). Hence, a comparison of both should be a good starting point to eventually come to a new ODD for encoding correspondence, and maybe even for introducing an actual module for future TEI Guidelines.
* MF, PSt and BV agree on doing such a mapping together. Since BV is like the only DALF original left, he will coordinate this: he will split the work up, and will be contacting MF and PSt for further arrangements. [UPDATE: Edward Vanhoutte and Ron Van den Branden agreed to work on this with BV face to face and then get back to MF and PSt afterwards. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 07:04, 27 November 2009 (EST)]
* Before X-mas, there should be a conference call to catch up on how the mapping proceeds. PSt will contact Dan O'Donnell for funding.
* Bugs and absurdities in P5 regarding correspondence should be posted on Sourceforge. Elena Pierazzo will be the liaison between the SIG and the TEI Council. She will help SIG members to report our findings through Sourceforge or otherwise.
* The mapping should result in a new ODD. SB is willing to help us create it. The new ODD should somehow be more or less DALF-like. Hence, the working title of the ODD is 'Dalfy'. Dalfy will be an oddified version of DALF where obviously identical concepts will already be mapped to their P5 equivalents (therefore Dalfy != DALF).
* After the mapping is done, useful elements (or concepts, structures) that are neither in DALF or in P5 yet, should be listed. Members of the SIG are welcome to suggest their own 'favourite missing elements'.
* With Dalfy as starting point we can than try to rearrange and modify it to come to a new Correspondence ODD (no code name yet!) that should resolve all problems and satisfy all needs...
* Issues that came up during the meetings concern <address> (and multiple addresses within one letter) (SB and EP), <signed> (everyone), endorsements as well as correspondence by committee (PSc)
* Besides the work on Dalfy PSt shall finish his work on oddifying his <correspDesc>.
'''Roadmap/Milestones''':
* Before Christmas: Teleconference about the mapping (MF, PSt, BV)
* Febr. 10, 2010: Mapping done
* July, 2010: Next SIG meeting at Digital Humanities conference (London) on new ODD

[Minutes PSt and BV]

==== London, Nov 8, 2008 ====

The first section (14-15:30) saw short presentations of current projects by:
* Tim McLoughlin: James Barry's letters
* Hilde Bøe: eMunch project (assisted by Ellen Nessheim Wiger with the Henrik Ibsen correspondence)
* Peter Boot: correspondence of Vincent van Gogh
* David Sewell: correspondence projects published via ROTUNDA
* Deborah K. Wright: correspondence of Matthew Prior
* Peter Stadler: correspondence of Carl Maria von Weber

The second section (16-16:45) had to be shortened due to organisational necessities but saw general discussion about
* the content model of postscript which is rather restricted and does not allow for an i.e. '''head''' element. Everyone was encouraged to send examples via the list. [Let me add that the same holds true for '''address''' --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]]]
* the need and the possible content for an '''correspDesc''' element within '''sourceDesc'''. I will try to create an odd file with the necessary additions to the schema as a starting point for further expertise. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]].
* correspondence as an event. Lou pointed this out as similar topics were discussed in the ontologies SIG.

== Correspondence Projects ==

Please add your projects alphabetically with link and (if possible) a short description!

=== Ongoing Projects ===

* [http://gams.uni-graz.at/fedora/get/container:rollett/bdef:Container/get The Letters of Alexander Rollett]. A project of the Center for Information Modeling in the Humanities (ZIM) at the University of Graz.
* Alfred Escher Correspondence. A project of the Alfred Escher Foundation, Zurich [http://www.alfred-escher.ch (Alfred Escher-Stiftung)]. Edition of the correspondence of Alfred Escher, influential 19th century Swiss politician and entrepreneur (e.g. Credit Suisse, Gotthard railway), comprising several thousand letters. At first, an edition of selected letters to and from Escher will be published in book form, including rich annotations. The first volume of the series is already available. Later on, the correspondence of Alfred Escher will be made available online. The correspondence covers topics as diverse as politics, economics, education, railways, banks, insurance.
* Digital Archive of Letters in Flanders authors and composers from the 19th & 20th century, [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF]
* ''Emily Dickinson's Correspondences'' (public version not yet online), to be published under the [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu Rotunda] imprint by University of Virginia Press. An edition of selected correspondence to and from American poet Emily Dickinson, with MS facsimiles and rich metadata capturing physical details of the manuscripts.
* Gundolf-Elli. Correspondence between Friedrich Gundolf and Elisabeth Salomon (George-Kreis). Project at the German Literature Archive. There is no website, yet. For more information use the mailing list.
* eMunch. Edvard Munch's written material: Complete letters, diaries and writings, [http://www.emunch.no/eng/index.htm] (Updated and expanded 15.06.2009)
* Weber, C.M.v.: Complete letters, diaries, writings and compositions, [http://www.weber-gesamtausgabe.de/ Carl-Maria-von-Weber-Gesamtausgabe] (at the moment german only)

=== Completed Projects ===
* [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/dmde The Dolley Madison Digital Edition], part of the University of Virginia Press's [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/ Rotunda] series. This is an ongoing publication, but the first two "volumes" are online. Currently the underlying data is tagged using the [http://adh.sc.edu/ Model Editions Partnership] variant of TEI (P4), but we are also exporting and transforming the documents to TEI P5 for interoperability with other material. (Contact: [mailto:dsewell@virginia.edu David Sewell])
* [http://www.vnsbrieven.org/VNS/?lang=en Van Nu en Straks: Brieven / Letters], Online edition of the correspondence concerning the literary journal 'Van Nu en Straks' (1419 letters). The annotated letters contain references to ca 2500 persons, 500 places, 1000 titles of books, 650 journal articles and 350 poems. A network of 3600 hyperlinks facilitates intuitive and associative consulting. Project at the [http://www.ctb.kantl.be Centre for Scholarly Editing and Document Studies] / Royal Academy of Dutch Language and Literature (KANTL-CTB, Ghent-Belgium) and Ghent University (Belgium). This project is part of the broader [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF-project].
* [http://www.vangoghletters.org/vg/ Vincent van Gogh, The letters]. A full edition of all the extant correspondence of Vincent van Gogh (900 letters). The edition includes full transcriptions (in Dutch and French), translation into English, facsimiles, extensive annotations and about 2000 illustrations.

[[Category:SIG|Correspondence]]

SIG:Correspondence

2011-10-21T08:10:28Z

Bwbohl: /* Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 */ added short list of goals

== News ==

* I created a [[SIG:Correspondence/ODD_work|new page]] for the discussion of a ''correspondence odd file''--[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 09:43, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

== Introduction ==
The TEI Special Interest Group on Correspondence seeks to bring together scholars interested in creating digital scholarly editions of correspondence. The goal of the SIG will be to discuss and develop sample tagsets (including suggesting additions/modifications to the TEI Guidelines) for varying forms of correspondence as well as to create tutorials and best practice models.

Because the initiative for this SIG emerged from editorial work with 19th century letters, the organizers of this SIG have focused on these types of materials. However, we want this SIG to be more encompassing, embracing varying types of historical and literary correspondence including epistles, telegrams, postcards, etc., and perhaps other types of documents that share features with physical written correspondence like diaries, diary entries, letters to the editor, e-mail, blogs, etc.

The common feature of these sorts of text is a generally formalized physical appearance (e.g., an envelope for letters) and structure of content (i.e. address field, special formulas for opener and closer). [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/da03.xml DALF] was one of the best documented projects in this area developing specific DTDs for those needs in P4: this may be a starting point for further work in P5.

Initial topics for the SIG Correspondence may include:
* the handling of the envelope and postal addresses
* the formal description of correspondence as a written dialogue between an author and an addressee
* correspondence-specific bibliographical data within the metadata section

== Activities ==

The SIG runs a mailing list, which you can join by visiting http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-corresp-sig.html .

=== Topics currently under discussion ===
* The content of a special '''correspDesc''' element
* The content model of '''postscript''': look at the [[Collection of Postscript-Examples]] and the contributions to the [[ps-discussion]].
* How to deal with '''enclosures''' or '''attachements''' to a letter
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, etc.
* diary entries
* definition of <signed> does not correspond with its actual use in the P5 guidelines
* address now in <p> but not in <div>: maybe not a good idea
* notification of addresses (different in different parts of the world). Could this be handled more adequately than just with datelines?

=== Meetings ===

==== Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 ====

The meeting at Wuerzburg will be on Oct 15, 2011 from 9am to 10:30am in room 1.003. Proposal of an Agenda:
* 1. New members / projects / demands
* 2. Short survey of the development of the SIG and the topics discussed
* 3. Views of the group about proposing a <correspDesc> (or similar) element or not
* 4. Future activities of the SIG: P5-Customizations for Correspondence ("Dalfy" et al.) / Special Guidelines (TEI by example) / Proposals / Next Steps
* 5. Roadmap for 2012
* 6. Website and Wiki

===== Minutes / Results / Goals =====

For minutes see [[SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015]], for a short list of goals deduced from the discussion see below.

We came up with some future goals for the SIG:

PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi
MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization
MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: collect examples and find out what people have done
MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: develope best practice models
LONG-TERM GOAL: make a compressed proposal (EP)

==== Zadar, Nov 13, 2010 ====

Participation: around 5 people

1. Peter gave a report on last year's activities
* Task force ‘Dalfy’ was established after the Ann Arbor Meeting: Markus Flatscher, Bert Van Raemdonck, Peter Stadler
* Goal: Mapping of DALF (P4) to TEI P5 as a basis for further work on a correspondence customization
* But: Momentum got lost …
* Further: Some discussion on TEI-L about "signed vs. salute"

2. A brief look on open questions
* Correspondence meta data: correspDesc?
* The content model of postscript (cf. the Collection of Postscript-Examples and the contributions to the ps-discussion.)
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, byline etc.

3. Attempt to create a roadmap for 2011
* Peter suggested a second attempt for a grant to achieve the mapping of DALF to P5
* Discussion about possible fundings for such an attempt
* review of the last failed TEI grant proposal: it was criticized by the present panel members that no preliminary work was (visibly) carried out
* Susan suggested to first initiate a survey on the correspondence list

4. AOB
* nothing

==== Ann Arbor, Nov 14, 2009 ====

Business and working meeting during the annual members meeting.
'''Participants''': Syd Bauman (SB), Markus Flatscher (MF), Elena Pierazzo (EP), Malte Rehbein (MR), Paul Schaffner (PSc), Peter Stadler (PSt), Bert Van Raemdonck (BV)

The business meeting was attended by MF, PSc, PSt and BV and - since the number of participants allowed it - was an informal talk about the different projects, the last meeting at London and the "correspDesc" PS had proposed there as well as the question whether editing correspondence from printed (secondary) material needs to treated differently than correspondence from manuscript source material. Work on the roadmap was postponed to the working meeting.

The working meeting was attended by all above mentioned participants who agreed on the need for a customization of some of the P5 elements (and element classes) for encoding correspondence. Question is of course: how?
* P5 has introduced some elements that were inspired by what had been done earlier in DALF (P4), but not all P4 customizations in DALF are actually rendered in P5 (and vice versa). Hence, a comparison of both should be a good starting point to eventually come to a new ODD for encoding correspondence, and maybe even for introducing an actual module for future TEI Guidelines.
* MF, PSt and BV agree on doing such a mapping together. Since BV is like the only DALF original left, he will coordinate this: he will split the work up, and will be contacting MF and PSt for further arrangements. [UPDATE: Edward Vanhoutte and Ron Van den Branden agreed to work on this with BV face to face and then get back to MF and PSt afterwards. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 07:04, 27 November 2009 (EST)]
* Before X-mas, there should be a conference call to catch up on how the mapping proceeds. PSt will contact Dan O'Donnell for funding.
* Bugs and absurdities in P5 regarding correspondence should be posted on Sourceforge. Elena Pierazzo will be the liaison between the SIG and the TEI Council. She will help SIG members to report our findings through Sourceforge or otherwise.
* The mapping should result in a new ODD. SB is willing to help us create it. The new ODD should somehow be more or less DALF-like. Hence, the working title of the ODD is 'Dalfy'. Dalfy will be an oddified version of DALF where obviously identical concepts will already be mapped to their P5 equivalents (therefore Dalfy != DALF).
* After the mapping is done, useful elements (or concepts, structures) that are neither in DALF or in P5 yet, should be listed. Members of the SIG are welcome to suggest their own 'favourite missing elements'.
* With Dalfy as starting point we can than try to rearrange and modify it to come to a new Correspondence ODD (no code name yet!) that should resolve all problems and satisfy all needs...
* Issues that came up during the meetings concern <address> (and multiple addresses within one letter) (SB and EP), <signed> (everyone), endorsements as well as correspondence by committee (PSc)
* Besides the work on Dalfy PSt shall finish his work on oddifying his <correspDesc>.
'''Roadmap/Milestones''':
* Before Christmas: Teleconference about the mapping (MF, PSt, BV)
* Febr. 10, 2010: Mapping done
* July, 2010: Next SIG meeting at Digital Humanities conference (London) on new ODD

[Minutes PSt and BV]

==== London, Nov 8, 2008 ====

The first section (14-15:30) saw short presentations of current projects by:
* Tim McLoughlin: James Barry's letters
* Hilde Bøe: eMunch project (assisted by Ellen Nessheim Wiger with the Henrik Ibsen correspondence)
* Peter Boot: correspondence of Vincent van Gogh
* David Sewell: correspondence projects published via ROTUNDA
* Deborah K. Wright: correspondence of Matthew Prior
* Peter Stadler: correspondence of Carl Maria von Weber

The second section (16-16:45) had to be shortened due to organisational necessities but saw general discussion about
* the content model of postscript which is rather restricted and does not allow for an i.e. '''head''' element. Everyone was encouraged to send examples via the list. [Let me add that the same holds true for '''address''' --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]]]
* the need and the possible content for an '''correspDesc''' element within '''sourceDesc'''. I will try to create an odd file with the necessary additions to the schema as a starting point for further expertise. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]].
* correspondence as an event. Lou pointed this out as similar topics were discussed in the ontologies SIG.

== Correspondence Projects ==

Please add your projects alphabetically with link and (if possible) a short description!

=== Ongoing Projects ===

* [http://gams.uni-graz.at/fedora/get/container:rollett/bdef:Container/get The Letters of Alexander Rollett]. A project of the Center for Information Modeling in the Humanities (ZIM) at the University of Graz.
* Alfred Escher Correspondence. A project of the Alfred Escher Foundation, Zurich [http://www.alfred-escher.ch (Alfred Escher-Stiftung)]. Edition of the correspondence of Alfred Escher, influential 19th century Swiss politician and entrepreneur (e.g. Credit Suisse, Gotthard railway), comprising several thousand letters. At first, an edition of selected letters to and from Escher will be published in book form, including rich annotations. The first volume of the series is already available. Later on, the correspondence of Alfred Escher will be made available online. The correspondence covers topics as diverse as politics, economics, education, railways, banks, insurance.
* Digital Archive of Letters in Flanders authors and composers from the 19th & 20th century, [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF]
* ''Emily Dickinson's Correspondences'' (public version not yet online), to be published under the [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu Rotunda] imprint by University of Virginia Press. An edition of selected correspondence to and from American poet Emily Dickinson, with MS facsimiles and rich metadata capturing physical details of the manuscripts.
* Gundolf-Elli. Correspondence between Friedrich Gundolf and Elisabeth Salomon (George-Kreis). Project at the German Literature Archive. There is no website, yet. For more information use the mailing list.
* eMunch. Edvard Munch's written material: Complete letters, diaries and writings, [http://www.emunch.no/eng/index.htm] (Updated and expanded 15.06.2009)
* Weber, C.M.v.: Complete letters, diaries, writings and compositions, [http://www.weber-gesamtausgabe.de/ Carl-Maria-von-Weber-Gesamtausgabe] (at the moment german only)

=== Completed Projects ===
* [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/dmde The Dolley Madison Digital Edition], part of the University of Virginia Press's [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/ Rotunda] series. This is an ongoing publication, but the first two "volumes" are online. Currently the underlying data is tagged using the [http://adh.sc.edu/ Model Editions Partnership] variant of TEI (P4), but we are also exporting and transforming the documents to TEI P5 for interoperability with other material. (Contact: [mailto:dsewell@virginia.edu David Sewell])
* [http://www.vnsbrieven.org/VNS/?lang=en Van Nu en Straks: Brieven / Letters], Online edition of the correspondence concerning the literary journal 'Van Nu en Straks' (1419 letters). The annotated letters contain references to ca 2500 persons, 500 places, 1000 titles of books, 650 journal articles and 350 poems. A network of 3600 hyperlinks facilitates intuitive and associative consulting. Project at the [http://www.ctb.kantl.be Centre for Scholarly Editing and Document Studies] / Royal Academy of Dutch Language and Literature (KANTL-CTB, Ghent-Belgium) and Ghent University (Belgium). This project is part of the broader [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF-project].
* [http://www.vangoghletters.org/vg/ Vincent van Gogh, The letters]. A full edition of all the extant correspondence of Vincent van Gogh (900 letters). The edition includes full transcriptions (in Dutch and French), translation into English, facsimiles, extensive annotations and about 2000 illustrations.

[[Category:SIG|Correspondence]]

SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015

2011-10-20T14:40:50Z

Bwbohl: /* DISCLAIMER: */

== Participants ==

* Fotis Jannidis (FJ)
* Syd Bauman (SB)
* Edward Vanhoutte (EV)
* Ron Van den Branden (RVB)
* Elena Pierazzo (EP)
* Lou Burnard (LB)
* Joachim Veit (JV) - head of meeting
* Martin de la Iglesia (MI)
* Stefan Cramme (SC)
* Jörg Ritter (JR)
* Michael Huber (MH)
* Mareike Laue (ML)
* Sabine Seifert (SS)
* Raffaele Viglianti (RV)
* Sina Bock (SB)
* Anna Maria Komprecht (AMK)
* Benjamin Wolff Bohl (BWB) - minutes
* some more that came in late, feel free to enter your name

== Introduction (JV) ==

* introduction of participants
* survey on the developement and history of the SIG and topics discussed so far

== Discussion <correspDesc> (or similar) ==

* current sketch:
** DALF as P4 customization offers a lot of elements for letter description
** Peter Stadler had put a customization (ODD) into discussion on the SIG:s mailing list, allowing for a core corresDecs inside tei:sourceDesc

* meanwhile EV and RVB (KANTL) have mapped DALF to P5, allowing for many of the dalf:letterDesc elemens in tei:msDesc in order to suffice the needs of their project; nevertheless they will contribute and are willing to receive input; mapping and ODDification of DALF-TEI could be completed by the end of the year
* Edvard Munch letters have been transcribed in perfect uncustomised TEI
* in order to assist further discussion a comparison of these three shall be made; EV and RVB volunteered

'''=> PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi'''

* EP brought forward that in aiming for a feature request in TEI one will have to take into account
** the current discussion on tei:msDesc in the SIG:manuscripts: introducing a tboDesc (text bearing object) in order to address a greater amplitude of "manuscripts"
** notions of forming a "superMetaSIG" in order to coordinate efforts in creating a "elephantDesc" (i.e. a common thing allowing for descriptions of as many textual sources as possible)
* FJ opted against starting with a "superSIG", before finishing the SIG:s work, as it is obvious that there will be no quick results, which would frustrate poeple
* RVB put in that defining a small set of elements would be more convenient for further generalisation and integration
* SB pointed out that in the end a tboDesc could be the right thing and teh SIG should try to feed in specific things
* EP from her TEI-council experiences things developed for a bigger things have been problematic and many elements have been depricated but cannot be dropped because of backwards compatibility; if the SIG goes that way things might be developed and then dropped
** as there will not be a modification ot tei:msDesc EP recommends aiming for a customisation
* JV stated that as far as he understood, the wish for a subsetContainer for a very restricted info about letters has a consesus

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization'''

== Discussion on future work ==

* JV asked for a taskforce and definition of some future activities
* RVDB hopes DALF will conclude their efforts in P5 mapping until the end of the year
* FJ proposed a comparison of the two customisations and the P5-conformant encoding at Munch Letters; EV (DALF/KANTL) voluntered on setting up the comparison
* JV called for examples in order to see the differences and supply other projects with some orientation and information for their work
** EV at the edition we started in march [PLEASES FILL IN THE URL] there you can see the XML
* EP prefers a tighter plan that could even result in a porposal for a TEI-Microgrant
** e.g. the purpose of two days will be: "we collect letters and put them in the WiKi" or similar; someone will have to coordinate especially if the grant will come out maybe next month
* LB proposed a more complete overview of how to edit letters as one would have to be very careful not to think these 3 will cover everything;
** this would be wonderful but would need researchers and funding(EV)
* EP clarified that it should be about a starting point first
* JV added as we are dependant on the SIG contributors, there is only a very small field of letters at the moment
** EP modern, renaissance and medieval letters are completely different
** SB interested in wether the TEI council will consider E-Mail as corresp or CMC (computer mediated communication)
*** EP the SIG has to define what they deal with
*** SB a guidance / thoughts from council will be interesting

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: collect examples and find out what people have done'''

* JV: for TEI-by-example it's a bit too early but how can we help people
* LB: give the 3 examples mentioned above, one has to figure out which is best for own purpose
* JR's college is looking for a recommendation (editorial note: and certainly other projects as well)
* LB: you must make an intellectual deciscion
* EP: it's hard for the beginning; it's ultimately the rule to give something: "the best practice might be..."
* JR would like to see recommendations because else people might loose interest
* JV many want to cooperate and with a common solution it's easier
* LB: first common ground is TEI; a meta-recommendation could be a second step
* FJ: common denominators work out of the box
* EV: you will compromise yourself in using a set not fit for your purpose; designing your own encoding solution is your scholarly work
* EP: sometimes you just want to do the thing everybody else does; I claim we should give guidance; there's nothing wrong with that

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: develope best practice models'''

'''=> LONG-TERM GOAL: make a compressed proposal (EP)'''

== other proposals ==

* SB will try to sprousse up peters ODD to make it work with the TEI a little better
* SB proposed having discussion around the comparison as conference call

== DISCLAIMER: ==
If I got any of you wrong or mispelled your names or anything else, please feel free to correct all of the above or contact me in order to do so --[[User:Bwbohl|Bwbohl]] 10:38, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015

2011-10-20T14:40:09Z

Bwbohl: /* */

== Participants ==

* Fotis Jannidis (FJ)
* Syd Bauman (SB)
* Edward Vanhoutte (EV)
* Ron Van den Branden (RVB)
* Elena Pierazzo (EP)
* Lou Burnard (LB)
* Joachim Veit (JV) - head of meeting
* Martin de la Iglesia (MI)
* Stefan Cramme (SC)
* Jörg Ritter (JR)
* Michael Huber (MH)
* Mareike Laue (ML)
* Sabine Seifert (SS)
* Raffaele Viglianti (RV)
* Sina Bock (SB)
* Anna Maria Komprecht (AMK)
* Benjamin Wolff Bohl (BWB) - minutes
* some more that came in late, feel free to enter your name

== Introduction (JV) ==

* introduction of participants
* survey on the developement and history of the SIG and topics discussed so far

== Discussion <correspDesc> (or similar) ==

* current sketch:
** DALF as P4 customization offers a lot of elements for letter description
** Peter Stadler had put a customization (ODD) into discussion on the SIG:s mailing list, allowing for a core corresDecs inside tei:sourceDesc

* meanwhile EV and RVB (KANTL) have mapped DALF to P5, allowing for many of the dalf:letterDesc elemens in tei:msDesc in order to suffice the needs of their project; nevertheless they will contribute and are willing to receive input; mapping and ODDification of DALF-TEI could be completed by the end of the year
* Edvard Munch letters have been transcribed in perfect uncustomised TEI
* in order to assist further discussion a comparison of these three shall be made; EV and RVB volunteered

'''=> PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi'''

* EP brought forward that in aiming for a feature request in TEI one will have to take into account
** the current discussion on tei:msDesc in the SIG:manuscripts: introducing a tboDesc (text bearing object) in order to address a greater amplitude of "manuscripts"
** notions of forming a "superMetaSIG" in order to coordinate efforts in creating a "elephantDesc" (i.e. a common thing allowing for descriptions of as many textual sources as possible)
* FJ opted against starting with a "superSIG", before finishing the SIG:s work, as it is obvious that there will be no quick results, which would frustrate poeple
* RVB put in that defining a small set of elements would be more convenient for further generalisation and integration
* SB pointed out that in the end a tboDesc could be the right thing and teh SIG should try to feed in specific things
* EP from her TEI-council experiences things developed for a bigger things have been problematic and many elements have been depricated but cannot be dropped because of backwards compatibility; if the SIG goes that way things might be developed and then dropped
** as there will not be a modification ot tei:msDesc EP recommends aiming for a customisation
* JV stated that as far as he understood, the wish for a subsetContainer for a very restricted info about letters has a consesus

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization'''

== Discussion on future work ==

* JV asked for a taskforce and definition of some future activities
* RVDB hopes DALF will conclude their efforts in P5 mapping until the end of the year
* FJ proposed a comparison of the two customisations and the P5-conformant encoding at Munch Letters; EV (DALF/KANTL) voluntered on setting up the comparison
* JV called for examples in order to see the differences and supply other projects with some orientation and information for their work
** EV at the edition we started in march [PLEASES FILL IN THE URL] there you can see the XML
* EP prefers a tighter plan that could even result in a porposal for a TEI-Microgrant
** e.g. the purpose of two days will be: "we collect letters and put them in the WiKi" or similar; someone will have to coordinate especially if the grant will come out maybe next month
* LB proposed a more complete overview of how to edit letters as one would have to be very careful not to think these 3 will cover everything;
** this would be wonderful but would need researchers and funding(EV)
* EP clarified that it should be about a starting point first
* JV added as we are dependant on the SIG contributors, there is only a very small field of letters at the moment
** EP modern, renaissance and medieval letters are completely different
** SB interested in wether the TEI council will consider E-Mail as corresp or CMC (computer mediated communication)
*** EP the SIG has to define what they deal with
*** SB a guidance / thoughts from council will be interesting

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: collect examples and find out what people have done'''

* JV: for TEI-by-example it's a bit too early but how can we help people
* LB: give the 3 examples mentioned above, one has to figure out which is best for own purpose
* JR's college is looking for a recommendation (editorial note: and certainly other projects as well)
* LB: you must make an intellectual deciscion
* EP: it's hard for the beginning; it's ultimately the rule to give something: "the best practice might be..."
* JR would like to see recommendations because else people might loose interest
* JV many want to cooperate and with a common solution it's easier
* LB: first common ground is TEI; a meta-recommendation could be a second step
* FJ: common denominators work out of the box
* EV: you will compromise yourself in using a set not fit for your purpose; designing your own encoding solution is your scholarly work
* EP: sometimes you just want to do the thing everybody else does; I claim we should give guidance; there's nothing wrong with that

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: develope best practice models'''

'''=> LONG-TERM GOAL: make a compressed proposal (EP)'''

== other proposals ==

* SB will try to sprousse up peters ODD to make it work with the TEI a little better
* SB proposed having discussion around the comparison as conference call

== DISCLAIMER: ==
If I got any of you wrong or mispelled your names please feel free to correct all of the above or contact me in order to do so --[[User:Bwbohl|Bwbohl]] 10:38, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015

2011-10-20T14:38:44Z

Bwbohl: /* Discussion <correspDesc> (or similar) */

== Participants ==

* Fotis Jannidis (FJ)
* Syd Bauman (SB)
* Edward Vanhoutte (EV)
* Ron Van den Branden (RVB)
* Elena Pierazzo (EP)
* Lou Burnard (LB)
* Joachim Veit (JV) - head of meeting
* Martin de la Iglesia (MI)
* Stefan Cramme (SC)
* Jörg Ritter (JR)
* Michael Huber (MH)
* Mareike Laue (ML)
* Sabine Seifert (SS)
* Raffaele Viglianti (RV)
* Sina Bock (SB)
* Anna Maria Komprecht (AMK)
* Benjamin Wolff Bohl (BWB) - minutes
* some more that came in late, feel free to enter your name

== Introduction (JV) ==

* introduction of participants
* survey on the developement and history of the SIG and topics discussed so far

== Discussion <correspDesc> (or similar) ==

* current sketch:
** DALF as P4 customization offers a lot of elements for letter description
** Peter Stadler had put a customization (ODD) into discussion on the SIG:s mailing list, allowing for a core corresDecs inside tei:sourceDesc

* meanwhile EV and RVB (KANTL) have mapped DALF to P5, allowing for many of the dalf:letterDesc elemens in tei:msDesc in order to suffice the needs of their project; nevertheless they will contribute and are willing to receive input; mapping and ODDification of DALF-TEI could be completed by the end of the year
* Edvard Munch letters have been transcribed in perfect uncustomised TEI
* in order to assist further discussion a comparison of these three shall be made; EV and RVB volunteered

'''=> PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi'''

* EP brought forward that in aiming for a feature request in TEI one will have to take into account
** the current discussion on tei:msDesc in the SIG:manuscripts: introducing a tboDesc (text bearing object) in order to address a greater amplitude of "manuscripts"
** notions of forming a "superMetaSIG" in order to coordinate efforts in creating a "elephantDesc" (i.e. a common thing allowing for descriptions of as many textual sources as possible)
* FJ opted against starting with a "superSIG", before finishing the SIG:s work, as it is obvious that there will be no quick results, which would frustrate poeple
* RVB put in that defining a small set of elements would be more convenient for further generalisation and integration
* SB pointed out that in the end a tboDesc could be the right thing and teh SIG should try to feed in specific things
* EP from her TEI-council experiences things developed for a bigger things have been problematic and many elements have been depricated but cannot be dropped because of backwards compatibility; if the SIG goes that way things might be developed and then dropped
** as there will not be a modification ot tei:msDesc EP recommends aiming for a customisation
* JV stated that as far as he understood, the wish for a subsetContainer for a very restricted info about letters has a consesus

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization'''

== Discussion on future work ==

* JV asked for a taskforce and definition of some future activities
* RVDB hopes DALF will conclude their efforts in P5 mapping until the end of the year
* FJ proposed a comparison of the two customisations and the P5-conformant encoding at Munch Letters; EV (DALF/KANTL) voluntered on setting up the comparison
* JV called for examples in order to see the differences and supply other projects with some orientation and information for their work
** EV at the edition we started in march [PLEASES FILL IN THE URL] there you can see the XML
* EP prefers a tighter plan that could even result in a porposal for a TEI-Microgrant
** e.g. the purpose of two days will be: "we collect letters and put them in the WiKi" or similar; someone will have to coordinate especially if the grant will come out maybe next month
* LB proposed a more complete overview of how to edit letters as one would have to be very careful not to think these 3 will cover everything;
** this would be wonderful but would need researchers and funding(EV)
* EP clarified that it should be about a starting point first
* JV added as we are dependant on the SIG contributors, there is only a very small field of letters at the moment
** EP modern, renaissance and medieval letters are completely different
** SB interested in wether the TEI council will consider E-Mail as corresp or CMC (computer mediated communication)
*** EP the SIG has to define what they deal with
*** SB a guidance / thoughts from council will be interesting

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: collect examples and find out what people have done'''

* JV: for TEI-by-example it's a bit too early but how can we help people
* LB: give the 3 examples mentioned above, one has to figure out which is best for own purpose
* JR's college is looking for a recommendation (editorial note: and certainly other projects as well)
* LB: you must make an intellectual deciscion
* EP: it's hard for the beginning; it's ultimately the rule to give something: "the best practice might be..."
* JR would like to see recommendations because else people might loose interest
* JV many want to cooperate and with a common solution it's easier
* LB: first common ground is TEI; a meta-recommendation could be a second step
* FJ: common denominators work out of the box
* EV: you will compromise yourself in using a set not fit for your purpose; designing your own encoding solution is your scholarly work
* EP: sometimes you just want to do the thing everybody else does; I claim we should give guidance; there's nothing wrong with that

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: develope best practice models'''

'''=> LONG-TERM GOAL: make a compressed proposal (EP)'''

== other proposals ==

* SB will try to sprousse up peters ODD to make it work with the TEI a little better
* SB proposed having discussion around the comparison as conference call

== DISCLAIMER: ==
If I got any of you wrong or mispelled your names please feel free to correct all of the above or contact me in order to do so --[[User:Bwbohl|Bwbohl]] 10:38, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

== ==

* JV for TEI-by-example it's a bit too early but how can we help people
Lou Burnard:give 3 say you figure
Ritter: My college is looking for a recommendation
Lou Bernard: you must make an intellectual deciscion, sorry
Elena: that's hard for the begining
Lou Burnard: life's hard
Elena: it's ultimately the rule to give something, the best practice might be this
Ritter: If there's no recommendation, I say do what you want as long as I can process
Veit: many want to cooperate and with a common solution it's easier
Lou Bernard: of course; doing TEI-things; meta-recommendation
Jannidis: common denominator work out of the box
Vanhoutten: you will compromise yourself in using a set not fit; designing your own encoding solution is your scholarly work
* EP sometimes you just want to do the thing everybody else does; I claim we should give guidance; there's nothing wrong with that; guide us for the start

* SB will:
** try to sprousse up peters odd to make it work with the TEI a little better
** Input form dalf comparison is really useful; we should have discussion around the comparison, better of as conference call than e-mail because it's harder to put off

'''=> LONGTERM GOAL: survey what poeple have done, generate a proposal'''

SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015

2011-10-20T14:10:41Z

Bwbohl: /* How to proceed */

== Participants ==

* Fotis Jannidis (FJ)
* Syd Bauman (SB)
* Edward Vanhoutte (EV)
* Ron Van den Branden (RVB)
* Elena Pierazzo (EP)
* Lou Burnard (LB)
* Joachim Veit (JV) - head of meeting
* Martin de la Iglesia (MI)
* Stefan Cramme (SC)
* Jörg Ritter (JR)
* Michael Huber (MH)
* Mareike Laue (ML)
* Sabine Seifert (SS)
* Raffaele Viglianti (RV)
* Sina Bock (SB)
* Anna Maria Komprecht (AMK)
* Benjamin Wolff Bohl (BWB) - minutes
* some more that came in late, feel free to enter your name

== Introduction (JV) ==

* introduction of participants
* survey on the developement and history of the SIG and topics discussed so far

== Discussion <correspDesc> (or similar) ==

* current sketch:
** DALF as P4 customization offers a lot of elements for letter description
** Peter Stadler had put a customization (ODD) into discussion on the SIG:s mailing list, allowing for a core corresDecs inside tei:sourceDesc

* meanwhile EV and RVB (KANTL) have mapped DALF to P5, allowing for many of the dalf:letterDesc elemens in tei:msDesc in order to suffice the needs of their project; nevertheless they will contribute and are willing to receive input; mapping and ODDification of DALF-TEI could be completed by the end of the year
* Edvard Munch letters have been transcribed in perfect uncustomised TEI
* in order to assist further discussion a comparison of these three shall be made; EV and RVB volunteered

'''=> PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi'''

* EP brought forward that in aiming for a feature request in TEI one will have to take into account
** the current discussion on tei:msDesc in the SIG:manuscripts: introducing a tboDesc (text bearing object) in order to address a greater amplitude of "manuscripts"
** notions of forming a "superMetaSIG" in order to coordinate efforts in creating a "elephantDesc" (i.e. a common thing allowing for descriptions of as many textual sources as possible)
* FJ opted against starting with a "superSIG", before finishing the SIG:s work, as it is obvious that there will be no quick results, which would frustrate poeple
* RVB put in that defining a small set of elements would be more convenient for further generalisation and integration
* SB pointed out that in the end a tboDesc could be the right thing and teh SIG should try to feed in specific things
* EP from her TEI-council experiences things developed for a bigger things have been problematic and many elements have been depricated but cannot be dropped because of backwards compatibility; if the SIG goes that way things might be developed and then dropped
** as there will not be a modification ot tei:msDesc EP recommends aiming for a customisation
* JV stated that as far as he understood, the wish for a subsetContainer for a very restricted info about letters has a consesus

'''=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization'''

* JV asked for a taskforce and definition of some future activities
* RVDB hopes DALF will conclude their efforts in P5 mapping until the end of the year
* FJ proposed a comparison of the two customisations and the P5-conformant encoding at Munch Letters; EV (DALF/KANTL) voluntered on setting up the comparison
* JV called for examples in order to see the differences and supply other projects with some orientation and information for their work
** EV at the edition we started in march [PLEASES FILL IN THE URL] there you can see the XML
* EP prefers a tighter plan that could even result in a porposal for a TEI-Microgrant
** e.g. the purpose of two days will be: "we collect letters and put them in the WiKi" or similar; someone will have to coordinate especially if the grant will come out maybe next month
* LB proposed a more complete overview of how to edit letters as one would have to be very careful not to think these 3 will cover everything;
** this would be wonderful but would need researchers and funding(EV)
* EP clarified that it should be about a starting point first
* JV added as we are dependant on the SIG contributors, there is only a very small field of letters at the moment
* EP modern, renaissance and medieval letters are completely different
* SB interested in wether the TEI council will consider E-Mail as corresp or CMC (computer mediated communication)
* EP the SIG has to define what they deal with
* SB a guidance / thoughts from council will be interesting

Elena: then we will have to find out what people have done; then a compressed proposal

== ==

* JV for TEI-by-example it's a bit too early but how can we help people
Lou Burnard:give 3 say you figure
Ritter: My college is looking for a recommendation
Lou Bernard: you must make an intellectual deciscion, sorry
Elena: that's hard for the begining
Lou Burnard: life's hard
Elena: it's ultimately the rule to give something, the best practice might be this
Ritter: If there's no recommendation, I say do what you want as long as I can process
Veit: many want to cooperate and with a common solution it's easier
Lou Bernard: of course; doing TEI-things; meta-recommendation
Jannidis: common denominator work out of the box
Vanhoutten: you will compromise yourself in using a set not fit; designing your own encoding solution is your scholarly work
* EP sometimes you just want to do the thing everybody else does; I claim we should give guidance; there's nothing wrong with that; guide us for the start

* SB will:
** try to sprousse up peters odd to make it work with the TEI a little better
** Input form dalf comparison is really useful; we should have discussion around the comparison, better of as conference call than e-mail because it's harder to put off

'''=> LONGTERM GOAL: survey what poeple have done, generate a proposal'''

SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015

2011-10-20T13:11:11Z

Bwbohl: /* Discussion <correspDesc> (or similar) */

SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015

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Bwbohl: /* Participants */

SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015

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Bwbohl: New page: == Participants == * Fotis Jannidis (FJ) * Syd Bauman (SB) * Edward Vanhoutte (EV) * Ron Van den Branden (RVB) * Elena Pierazzo (EP) * Lou Burnard (LB) * Joachim Veit (JV) - head of meeti...

== Participants ==

* Fotis Jannidis (FJ)
* Syd Bauman (SB)
* Edward Vanhoutte (EV)
* Ron Van den Branden (RVB)
* Elena Pierazzo (EP)
* Lou Burnard (LB)
* Joachim Veit (JV) - head of meeting
* Eglesias
* Stefan Cramme (SC)
* Jörg Ritter (JR)
* Sabine Seifert (SS)
* Benjamin Wolff Bohl (BWB) - minutes
* to be completed WITH MANY MORE, fell free to enter your name

== Introduction (JV) ==

* introduction of participants
* survey on the developement and history of the SIG and topics discussed so far

== Discussion <correspDesc> (or similar) ==

* current sketch:
** DALF as P4 customization offers a lot of elements for letter description
** Peter Stadler had put a customization (ODD) into discussion on the SIG:s mailing list, allowing for a core corresDecs inside tei:sourceDesc

* meanwhile EV and RVB (KANTL) have mapped DALF to P5, allowing for many of the dalf:letterDesc elemens in tei:msDesc in order to suffice the needs of their project; nevertheless they will contribute and are willing to receive input; mapping and ODDification of DALF-TEI could be completed by the end of the year
* Edvard Munch letters have been transcribed in perfect uncustomised TEI
* in order to assist further discussion a comparison of these three shall be made; EV and RVB volunteered

=> PRELIMINARY GOAL: publish comparison on WiKi

* EP brought forward that in aiming for a feature request in TEI one will have to take into account
** the current discussion on tei:msDesc in the SIG:manuscripts: introducing a tboDesc (text bearing object) in order to address a greater amplitude of "manuscripts"
** notions of forming a "superMetaSIG" in order to coordinate efforts in creating a "elephantDesc" (i.e. a common thing allowing for descriptions of as many textual sources as possible)
* FJ opted against starting with a "superSIG", before finishing the SIG:s work, as it is obvious that there will be no quick results, which would frustrate poeple
* RVB put in that defining a small set of elements would be more convenient for further generalisation and integration
* SB pointed out that in the end a tboDesc could be the right thing and teh SIG should try to feed in specific things
* EP from her TEI-council experiences things developed for a bigger things have been problematic and many elements have been depricated but cannot be dropped because of backwards compatibility; if the SIG goes that way things might be developed and then dropped
** as there will not be a modification ot tei:msDesc EP recommends aiming for a customisation

=> MIDDLE-TERM GOAL: publish a "official" customization

To Be Completed

SIG:Correspondence

2011-10-20T07:39:09Z

Bwbohl: /* Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 */

== News ==

* I created a [[SIG:Correspondence/ODD_work|new page]] for the discussion of a ''correspondence odd file''--[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 09:43, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

== Introduction ==
The TEI Special Interest Group on Correspondence seeks to bring together scholars interested in creating digital scholarly editions of correspondence. The goal of the SIG will be to discuss and develop sample tagsets (including suggesting additions/modifications to the TEI Guidelines) for varying forms of correspondence as well as to create tutorials and best practice models.

Because the initiative for this SIG emerged from editorial work with 19th century letters, the organizers of this SIG have focused on these types of materials. However, we want this SIG to be more encompassing, embracing varying types of historical and literary correspondence including epistles, telegrams, postcards, etc., and perhaps other types of documents that share features with physical written correspondence like diaries, diary entries, letters to the editor, e-mail, blogs, etc.

The common feature of these sorts of text is a generally formalized physical appearance (e.g., an envelope for letters) and structure of content (i.e. address field, special formulas for opener and closer). [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/da03.xml DALF] was one of the best documented projects in this area developing specific DTDs for those needs in P4: this may be a starting point for further work in P5.

Initial topics for the SIG Correspondence may include:
* the handling of the envelope and postal addresses
* the formal description of correspondence as a written dialogue between an author and an addressee
* correspondence-specific bibliographical data within the metadata section

== Activities ==

The SIG runs a mailing list, which you can join by visiting http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-corresp-sig.html .

=== Topics currently under discussion ===
* The content of a special '''correspDesc''' element
* The content model of '''postscript''': look at the [[Collection of Postscript-Examples]] and the contributions to the [[ps-discussion]].
* How to deal with '''enclosures''' or '''attachements''' to a letter
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, etc.
* diary entries
* definition of <signed> does not correspond with its actual use in the P5 guidelines
* address now in <p> but not in <div>: maybe not a good idea
* notification of addresses (different in different parts of the world). Could this be handled more adequately than just with datelines?

=== Meetings ===

==== Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 ====

The meeting at Wuerzburg will be on Oct 15, 2011 from 9am to 10:30am in room 1.003. Proposal of an Agenda:
* 1. New members / projects / demands
* 2. Short survey of the development of the SIG and the topics discussed
* 3. Views of the group about proposing a <correspDesc> (or similar) element or not
* 4. Future activities of the SIG: P5-Customizations for Correspondence ("Dalfy" et al.) / Special Guidelines (TEI by example) / Proposals / Next Steps
* 5. Roadmap for 2012
* 6. Website and Wiki

[[SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015]]

==== Zadar, Nov 13, 2010 ====

Participation: around 5 people

1. Peter gave a report on last year's activities
* Task force ‘Dalfy’ was established after the Ann Arbor Meeting: Markus Flatscher, Bert Van Raemdonck, Peter Stadler
* Goal: Mapping of DALF (P4) to TEI P5 as a basis for further work on a correspondence customization
* But: Momentum got lost …
* Further: Some discussion on TEI-L about "signed vs. salute"

2. A brief look on open questions
* Correspondence meta data: correspDesc?
* The content model of postscript (cf. the Collection of Postscript-Examples and the contributions to the ps-discussion.)
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, byline etc.

3. Attempt to create a roadmap for 2011
* Peter suggested a second attempt for a grant to achieve the mapping of DALF to P5
* Discussion about possible fundings for such an attempt
* review of the last failed TEI grant proposal: it was criticized by the present panel members that no preliminary work was (visibly) carried out
* Susan suggested to first initiate a survey on the correspondence list

4. AOB
* nothing

==== Ann Arbor, Nov 14, 2009 ====

Business and working meeting during the annual members meeting.
'''Participants''': Syd Bauman (SB), Markus Flatscher (MF), Elena Pierazzo (EP), Malte Rehbein (MR), Paul Schaffner (PSc), Peter Stadler (PSt), Bert Van Raemdonck (BV)

The business meeting was attended by MF, PSc, PSt and BV and - since the number of participants allowed it - was an informal talk about the different projects, the last meeting at London and the "correspDesc" PS had proposed there as well as the question whether editing correspondence from printed (secondary) material needs to treated differently than correspondence from manuscript source material. Work on the roadmap was postponed to the working meeting.

The working meeting was attended by all above mentioned participants who agreed on the need for a customization of some of the P5 elements (and element classes) for encoding correspondence. Question is of course: how?
* P5 has introduced some elements that were inspired by what had been done earlier in DALF (P4), but not all P4 customizations in DALF are actually rendered in P5 (and vice versa). Hence, a comparison of both should be a good starting point to eventually come to a new ODD for encoding correspondence, and maybe even for introducing an actual module for future TEI Guidelines.
* MF, PSt and BV agree on doing such a mapping together. Since BV is like the only DALF original left, he will coordinate this: he will split the work up, and will be contacting MF and PSt for further arrangements. [UPDATE: Edward Vanhoutte and Ron Van den Branden agreed to work on this with BV face to face and then get back to MF and PSt afterwards. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 07:04, 27 November 2009 (EST)]
* Before X-mas, there should be a conference call to catch up on how the mapping proceeds. PSt will contact Dan O'Donnell for funding.
* Bugs and absurdities in P5 regarding correspondence should be posted on Sourceforge. Elena Pierazzo will be the liaison between the SIG and the TEI Council. She will help SIG members to report our findings through Sourceforge or otherwise.
* The mapping should result in a new ODD. SB is willing to help us create it. The new ODD should somehow be more or less DALF-like. Hence, the working title of the ODD is 'Dalfy'. Dalfy will be an oddified version of DALF where obviously identical concepts will already be mapped to their P5 equivalents (therefore Dalfy != DALF).
* After the mapping is done, useful elements (or concepts, structures) that are neither in DALF or in P5 yet, should be listed. Members of the SIG are welcome to suggest their own 'favourite missing elements'.
* With Dalfy as starting point we can than try to rearrange and modify it to come to a new Correspondence ODD (no code name yet!) that should resolve all problems and satisfy all needs...
* Issues that came up during the meetings concern <address> (and multiple addresses within one letter) (SB and EP), <signed> (everyone), endorsements as well as correspondence by committee (PSc)
* Besides the work on Dalfy PSt shall finish his work on oddifying his <correspDesc>.
'''Roadmap/Milestones''':
* Before Christmas: Teleconference about the mapping (MF, PSt, BV)
* Febr. 10, 2010: Mapping done
* July, 2010: Next SIG meeting at Digital Humanities conference (London) on new ODD

[Minutes PSt and BV]

==== London, Nov 8, 2008 ====

The first section (14-15:30) saw short presentations of current projects by:
* Tim McLoughlin: James Barry's letters
* Hilde Bøe: eMunch project (assisted by Ellen Nessheim Wiger with the Henrik Ibsen correspondence)
* Peter Boot: correspondence of Vincent van Gogh
* David Sewell: correspondence projects published via ROTUNDA
* Deborah K. Wright: correspondence of Matthew Prior
* Peter Stadler: correspondence of Carl Maria von Weber

The second section (16-16:45) had to be shortened due to organisational necessities but saw general discussion about
* the content model of postscript which is rather restricted and does not allow for an i.e. '''head''' element. Everyone was encouraged to send examples via the list. [Let me add that the same holds true for '''address''' --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]]]
* the need and the possible content for an '''correspDesc''' element within '''sourceDesc'''. I will try to create an odd file with the necessary additions to the schema as a starting point for further expertise. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]].
* correspondence as an event. Lou pointed this out as similar topics were discussed in the ontologies SIG.

== Correspondence Projects ==

Please add your projects alphabetically with link and (if possible) a short description!

=== Ongoing Projects ===

* [http://gams.uni-graz.at/fedora/get/container:rollett/bdef:Container/get The Letters of Alexander Rollett]. A project of the Center for Information Modeling in the Humanities (ZIM) at the University of Graz.
* Alfred Escher Correspondence. A project of the Alfred Escher Foundation, Zurich [http://www.alfred-escher.ch (Alfred Escher-Stiftung)]. Edition of the correspondence of Alfred Escher, influential 19th century Swiss politician and entrepreneur (e.g. Credit Suisse, Gotthard railway), comprising several thousand letters. At first, an edition of selected letters to and from Escher will be published in book form, including rich annotations. The first volume of the series is already available. Later on, the correspondence of Alfred Escher will be made available online. The correspondence covers topics as diverse as politics, economics, education, railways, banks, insurance.
* Digital Archive of Letters in Flanders authors and composers from the 19th & 20th century, [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF]
* ''Emily Dickinson's Correspondences'' (public version not yet online), to be published under the [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu Rotunda] imprint by University of Virginia Press. An edition of selected correspondence to and from American poet Emily Dickinson, with MS facsimiles and rich metadata capturing physical details of the manuscripts.
* Gundolf-Elli. Correspondence between Friedrich Gundolf and Elisabeth Salomon (George-Kreis). Project at the German Literature Archive. There is no website, yet. For more information use the mailing list.
* eMunch. Edvard Munch's written material: Complete letters, diaries and writings, [http://www.emunch.no/eng/index.htm] (Updated and expanded 15.06.2009)
* Weber, C.M.v.: Complete letters, diaries, writings and compositions, [http://www.weber-gesamtausgabe.de/ Carl-Maria-von-Weber-Gesamtausgabe] (at the moment german only)

=== Completed Projects ===
* [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/dmde The Dolley Madison Digital Edition], part of the University of Virginia Press's [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/ Rotunda] series. This is an ongoing publication, but the first two "volumes" are online. Currently the underlying data is tagged using the [http://adh.sc.edu/ Model Editions Partnership] variant of TEI (P4), but we are also exporting and transforming the documents to TEI P5 for interoperability with other material. (Contact: [mailto:dsewell@virginia.edu David Sewell])
* [http://www.vnsbrieven.org/VNS/?lang=en Van Nu en Straks: Brieven / Letters], Online edition of the correspondence concerning the literary journal 'Van Nu en Straks' (1419 letters). The annotated letters contain references to ca 2500 persons, 500 places, 1000 titles of books, 650 journal articles and 350 poems. A network of 3600 hyperlinks facilitates intuitive and associative consulting. Project at the [http://www.ctb.kantl.be Centre for Scholarly Editing and Document Studies] / Royal Academy of Dutch Language and Literature (KANTL-CTB, Ghent-Belgium) and Ghent University (Belgium). This project is part of the broader [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF-project].
* [http://www.vangoghletters.org/vg/ Vincent van Gogh, The letters]. A full edition of all the extant correspondence of Vincent van Gogh (900 letters). The edition includes full transcriptions (in Dutch and French), translation into English, facsimiles, extensive annotations and about 2000 illustrations.

[[Category:SIG|Correspondence]]

SIG:Correspondence

2011-10-20T07:37:43Z

Bwbohl: /* Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 */

== News ==

* I created a [[SIG:Correspondence/ODD_work|new page]] for the discussion of a ''correspondence odd file''--[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 09:43, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

== Introduction ==
The TEI Special Interest Group on Correspondence seeks to bring together scholars interested in creating digital scholarly editions of correspondence. The goal of the SIG will be to discuss and develop sample tagsets (including suggesting additions/modifications to the TEI Guidelines) for varying forms of correspondence as well as to create tutorials and best practice models.

Because the initiative for this SIG emerged from editorial work with 19th century letters, the organizers of this SIG have focused on these types of materials. However, we want this SIG to be more encompassing, embracing varying types of historical and literary correspondence including epistles, telegrams, postcards, etc., and perhaps other types of documents that share features with physical written correspondence like diaries, diary entries, letters to the editor, e-mail, blogs, etc.

The common feature of these sorts of text is a generally formalized physical appearance (e.g., an envelope for letters) and structure of content (i.e. address field, special formulas for opener and closer). [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/da03.xml DALF] was one of the best documented projects in this area developing specific DTDs for those needs in P4: this may be a starting point for further work in P5.

Initial topics for the SIG Correspondence may include:
* the handling of the envelope and postal addresses
* the formal description of correspondence as a written dialogue between an author and an addressee
* correspondence-specific bibliographical data within the metadata section

== Activities ==

The SIG runs a mailing list, which you can join by visiting http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-corresp-sig.html .

=== Topics currently under discussion ===
* The content of a special '''correspDesc''' element
* The content model of '''postscript''': look at the [[Collection of Postscript-Examples]] and the contributions to the [[ps-discussion]].
* How to deal with '''enclosures''' or '''attachements''' to a letter
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, etc.
* diary entries
* definition of <signed> does not correspond with its actual use in the P5 guidelines
* address now in <p> but not in <div>: maybe not a good idea
* notification of addresses (different in different parts of the world). Could this be handled more adequately than just with datelines?

=== Meetings ===

==== Wuerzburg, Oct 15, 2011 ====

The meeting at Wuerzburg will be on Oct 15, 2011 from 9am to 10:30am in room 1.003. Proposal of an Agenda:
* 1. New members / projects / demands
* 2. Short survey of the development of the SIG and the topics discussed
* 3. Views of the group about proposing a <correspDesc> (or similar) element or not
* 4. Future activities of the SIG: P5-Customizations for Correspondence ("Dalfy" et al.) / Special Guidelines (TEI by example) / Proposals / Next Steps
* 5. Roadmap for 2012
* 6. Website and Wiki

[SIGcorresp Minutes 20111015]

==== Zadar, Nov 13, 2010 ====

Participation: around 5 people

1. Peter gave a report on last year's activities
* Task force ‘Dalfy’ was established after the Ann Arbor Meeting: Markus Flatscher, Bert Van Raemdonck, Peter Stadler
* Goal: Mapping of DALF (P4) to TEI P5 as a basis for further work on a correspondence customization
* But: Momentum got lost …
* Further: Some discussion on TEI-L about "signed vs. salute"

2. A brief look on open questions
* Correspondence meta data: correspDesc?
* The content model of postscript (cf. the Collection of Postscript-Examples and the contributions to the ps-discussion.)
* The content model of opener/closer and their connection with salute, signed, dateline, byline etc.

3. Attempt to create a roadmap for 2011
* Peter suggested a second attempt for a grant to achieve the mapping of DALF to P5
* Discussion about possible fundings for such an attempt
* review of the last failed TEI grant proposal: it was criticized by the present panel members that no preliminary work was (visibly) carried out
* Susan suggested to first initiate a survey on the correspondence list

4. AOB
* nothing

==== Ann Arbor, Nov 14, 2009 ====

Business and working meeting during the annual members meeting.
'''Participants''': Syd Bauman (SB), Markus Flatscher (MF), Elena Pierazzo (EP), Malte Rehbein (MR), Paul Schaffner (PSc), Peter Stadler (PSt), Bert Van Raemdonck (BV)

The business meeting was attended by MF, PSc, PSt and BV and - since the number of participants allowed it - was an informal talk about the different projects, the last meeting at London and the "correspDesc" PS had proposed there as well as the question whether editing correspondence from printed (secondary) material needs to treated differently than correspondence from manuscript source material. Work on the roadmap was postponed to the working meeting.

The working meeting was attended by all above mentioned participants who agreed on the need for a customization of some of the P5 elements (and element classes) for encoding correspondence. Question is of course: how?
* P5 has introduced some elements that were inspired by what had been done earlier in DALF (P4), but not all P4 customizations in DALF are actually rendered in P5 (and vice versa). Hence, a comparison of both should be a good starting point to eventually come to a new ODD for encoding correspondence, and maybe even for introducing an actual module for future TEI Guidelines.
* MF, PSt and BV agree on doing such a mapping together. Since BV is like the only DALF original left, he will coordinate this: he will split the work up, and will be contacting MF and PSt for further arrangements. [UPDATE: Edward Vanhoutte and Ron Van den Branden agreed to work on this with BV face to face and then get back to MF and PSt afterwards. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]] 07:04, 27 November 2009 (EST)]
* Before X-mas, there should be a conference call to catch up on how the mapping proceeds. PSt will contact Dan O'Donnell for funding.
* Bugs and absurdities in P5 regarding correspondence should be posted on Sourceforge. Elena Pierazzo will be the liaison between the SIG and the TEI Council. She will help SIG members to report our findings through Sourceforge or otherwise.
* The mapping should result in a new ODD. SB is willing to help us create it. The new ODD should somehow be more or less DALF-like. Hence, the working title of the ODD is 'Dalfy'. Dalfy will be an oddified version of DALF where obviously identical concepts will already be mapped to their P5 equivalents (therefore Dalfy != DALF).
* After the mapping is done, useful elements (or concepts, structures) that are neither in DALF or in P5 yet, should be listed. Members of the SIG are welcome to suggest their own 'favourite missing elements'.
* With Dalfy as starting point we can than try to rearrange and modify it to come to a new Correspondence ODD (no code name yet!) that should resolve all problems and satisfy all needs...
* Issues that came up during the meetings concern <address> (and multiple addresses within one letter) (SB and EP), <signed> (everyone), endorsements as well as correspondence by committee (PSc)
* Besides the work on Dalfy PSt shall finish his work on oddifying his <correspDesc>.
'''Roadmap/Milestones''':
* Before Christmas: Teleconference about the mapping (MF, PSt, BV)
* Febr. 10, 2010: Mapping done
* July, 2010: Next SIG meeting at Digital Humanities conference (London) on new ODD

[Minutes PSt and BV]

==== London, Nov 8, 2008 ====

The first section (14-15:30) saw short presentations of current projects by:
* Tim McLoughlin: James Barry's letters
* Hilde Bøe: eMunch project (assisted by Ellen Nessheim Wiger with the Henrik Ibsen correspondence)
* Peter Boot: correspondence of Vincent van Gogh
* David Sewell: correspondence projects published via ROTUNDA
* Deborah K. Wright: correspondence of Matthew Prior
* Peter Stadler: correspondence of Carl Maria von Weber

The second section (16-16:45) had to be shortened due to organisational necessities but saw general discussion about
* the content model of postscript which is rather restricted and does not allow for an i.e. '''head''' element. Everyone was encouraged to send examples via the list. [Let me add that the same holds true for '''address''' --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]]]
* the need and the possible content for an '''correspDesc''' element within '''sourceDesc'''. I will try to create an odd file with the necessary additions to the schema as a starting point for further expertise. --[[User:Pstadler|pstadler]].
* correspondence as an event. Lou pointed this out as similar topics were discussed in the ontologies SIG.

== Correspondence Projects ==

Please add your projects alphabetically with link and (if possible) a short description!

=== Ongoing Projects ===

* [http://gams.uni-graz.at/fedora/get/container:rollett/bdef:Container/get The Letters of Alexander Rollett]. A project of the Center for Information Modeling in the Humanities (ZIM) at the University of Graz.
* Alfred Escher Correspondence. A project of the Alfred Escher Foundation, Zurich [http://www.alfred-escher.ch (Alfred Escher-Stiftung)]. Edition of the correspondence of Alfred Escher, influential 19th century Swiss politician and entrepreneur (e.g. Credit Suisse, Gotthard railway), comprising several thousand letters. At first, an edition of selected letters to and from Escher will be published in book form, including rich annotations. The first volume of the series is already available. Later on, the correspondence of Alfred Escher will be made available online. The correspondence covers topics as diverse as politics, economics, education, railways, banks, insurance.
* Digital Archive of Letters in Flanders authors and composers from the 19th & 20th century, [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF]
* ''Emily Dickinson's Correspondences'' (public version not yet online), to be published under the [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu Rotunda] imprint by University of Virginia Press. An edition of selected correspondence to and from American poet Emily Dickinson, with MS facsimiles and rich metadata capturing physical details of the manuscripts.
* Gundolf-Elli. Correspondence between Friedrich Gundolf and Elisabeth Salomon (George-Kreis). Project at the German Literature Archive. There is no website, yet. For more information use the mailing list.
* eMunch. Edvard Munch's written material: Complete letters, diaries and writings, [http://www.emunch.no/eng/index.htm] (Updated and expanded 15.06.2009)
* Weber, C.M.v.: Complete letters, diaries, writings and compositions, [http://www.weber-gesamtausgabe.de/ Carl-Maria-von-Weber-Gesamtausgabe] (at the moment german only)

=== Completed Projects ===
* [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/dmde The Dolley Madison Digital Edition], part of the University of Virginia Press's [http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/ Rotunda] series. This is an ongoing publication, but the first two "volumes" are online. Currently the underlying data is tagged using the [http://adh.sc.edu/ Model Editions Partnership] variant of TEI (P4), but we are also exporting and transforming the documents to TEI P5 for interoperability with other material. (Contact: [mailto:dsewell@virginia.edu David Sewell])
* [http://www.vnsbrieven.org/VNS/?lang=en Van Nu en Straks: Brieven / Letters], Online edition of the correspondence concerning the literary journal 'Van Nu en Straks' (1419 letters). The annotated letters contain references to ca 2500 persons, 500 places, 1000 titles of books, 650 journal articles and 350 poems. A network of 3600 hyperlinks facilitates intuitive and associative consulting. Project at the [http://www.ctb.kantl.be Centre for Scholarly Editing and Document Studies] / Royal Academy of Dutch Language and Literature (KANTL-CTB, Ghent-Belgium) and Ghent University (Belgium). This project is part of the broader [http://www.kantl.be/ctb/project/dalf/ DALF-project].
* [http://www.vangoghletters.org/vg/ Vincent van Gogh, The letters]. A full edition of all the extant correspondence of Vincent van Gogh (900 letters). The edition includes full transcriptions (in Dutch and French), translation into English, facsimiles, extensive annotations and about 2000 illustrations.

[[Category:SIG|Correspondence]]

SIGMS Minutes 20111014

2011-10-20T07:36:33Z

Bwbohl: /* Participants */

== Participants ==

* Elena Pierazzo (EP)
* Marjorie Burghardt (MB)
* Torsten Schaßan (TS)
* Christian Wittern (CW)
* Ron Van den Branden (RB)
* Joachim Veit (JV)
* Malte Rehbein (MR)
* Oliver Gasperlin (OG)
* Gregor Middell (GM) – minutes
* Benjamin W. Bohl (BWB)
* ''(many more, please add your name here)''

== Introduction (EP) ==

* introduction of participants
* explains relationship and interdependencies to other SIGs (Facsimile, Libraries, ...), willingness to contribute vs. ability to do so on a persistent basis, problem of time constraints, financial and other resources as well as attribution of work in the SIGs
* outline of current activities
** '''Genetic editing''': Council adopts recommendations of the SIG WG, will be circulated for the first time shortly; likely to be included in the next release of the Guidelines
** '''Critical Apparatus''': chapter in the Guidelines has not been revised since P4, automatic collation vs. manual construction of a CA, question of relationship between the two, MB appointed as leader of a WG to improve on this situation
** '''Manuscript description''': extension of existing means with dimensions like time, geospatial information etc., problem of scope (to what extent are we talking about manuscripts or about cultural artifacts in general)
* organizational matters, some financial support by the TEI available, communication via [http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-ms-sig.html mailing list], [[SIG:MSS|wiki]] and [http://www.tei-c.org/SIG/Manuscripts/ web-site]
* call for participation

== What should we do, what could you do? ==

* TS: ODDs from [http://enrich.manuscriptorium.com/ ENRICH project] available
* support for marginal notes in the Guidelines/ SIG proposal
* manuscript description: <summary/> content model is not flexible enough for more complex descriptions (e.g. <p/>)
* CW: there are – apart from the SIG – means to address such issues, for example the [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=644065&group_id=106328&func=browse Sourceforge Issue Tracker]
* EP: SIG can act as a proxy though
* RB: we could extend [http://tbe.kantl.be/TBE/ TEI by Example] with manuscript-related resources
* TS: refering to ENRICH again, there are existing resources and documentation for manuscript description, including conversion scenarios (TEI, EAD, ...)
* JV: structure of text is sometimes hard to describe with existing elements, not a problem of manuscripts alone, maybe some conceptual overlap with manuscript description
* EP: SIG "Text-Bearing Objects" might be a good place to address this
* idea about further modularizing the TEI, e.g. via use of different namespaces, address different use cases this way
* MR: problem of SIG's scope, lots of interest in manuscripts, but how to derive concrete tasks from that, maybe should come up with a new definition of what the SIG should do
* OG: supports idea of asking for micropapers before SIG meetings

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