https://wiki.tei-c.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Piotr+BanskiTEIWiki - User contributions [en]2026-04-23T17:12:28ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.32.0https://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=XPointer&diff=16929XPointer2025-07-23T14:49:35Z<p>Piotr Banski: quick update</p>
<hr />
<div>''For use cases where these techniques might be used, see [[Stand-off use cases]].''<br />
<br />
'''In lieu of a page update:'''<br />
* See https://github.com/SCDH/tei-xpointer-schemes for a sample implementation of the [https://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/SA.html#SATS TEI XPointer schemes].<br />
<br />
<br /><br />
<br />
The '''[http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-framework/ XPointer Framework]''' is a collection of schemes (note: ''schemes'' not ''schemas'') that specify the method for addressing into the XML tree or help in this task. One end of its functionality overlaps with XPath, but the other allows one to address points and ranges inside elements, and this is often precious to us TEI-ers, especially in some [[stand-off markup]] systems or for working with ontologies (RDF may use it). It was initially defined as a companion to [[XLink]] that took care of URI fragment identifiers (the strings placed after the '#' in a URI).<br />
<br />
Some of the schemes, e.g. the simplest [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-element/ element() scheme], which uses simple tree-traversal syntax, are supported by any decent XML tool nowadays. It is worth pointing out that '''any tool that claims to support XInclude, must support the general conventions of the XPointer Framework and the XPointer element() scheme''' ([http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude/#application per the XInclude spec]). The "general conventions" of the Framework mean, practically, the possibility of addressing elements by their IDs and the possibility of using multiple schemes in a single pointer (see [[#XPointer syntax|below]]).<br />
<br />
Apart from element(), there is also the [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xmlns/ xmlns() scheme] that does namespace binding, and finally the [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/ xpointer() scheme] that does an incredible lot of useful things in a very clever way, except it's not supported in full anywhere.<br />
<br />
The three schemes mentioned above have been defined or, in the case of xpointer(), drafted, by the W3C. The XPointer Framework, however, allows other parties to define their own schemes and get them registered in a special corner of the W3C called the [http://www.w3.org/2005/04/xpointer-schemes/ XPointer Registry]. And this is the point where we, as the TEI community, may want to focus some of our attention. Thanks to Syd Bauman, a number of [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/SA.html#SATSTEI-defined schemes] (described in the ''Linking and Alignment'' chapter of the Guidelines) have been registered with the W3C. One of them, [http://simonstl.com/ietf/draft-stlaurent-xpath-frag-01.txt xpath1()], is actually shared with other Internet communities, and implemented in Firefox (see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182323 bug #182323]). Another is smlxpath1() defined by the [http://www.w3.org/TR/sml/ Service Modeling Language]. Yet another is the string-range() scheme, one of the TEI-defined schemes that are useful in stand-off architecture and that may address into the content of elements.<br />
<br />
== Structure of the XPointer Framework ==<br />
<br />
The structure of the XPointer Framework is illustrated below:<br />
<br />
<code><br />
XPointer Framework<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
syntax scheme repository<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
W3C <span style="color:brown">schemes</span> external-party (a.o. TEI) <span style="color:brown">schemes</span><br />
. . . . . .<br />
/ | \ / | \<br />
/ | \ / | \<br />
. . . . . .<br />
element() xmlns() xpointer() range() '''[http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/SA.html#SATSSR string-range()]''' ... xpath2()<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
XPath 1.0 <span style="color:green">functions</span> XPointer <span style="color:green">functions</span><br />
. . .<br />
/ | \<br />
/ | \<br />
. . .<br />
range-to() end-point() '''[http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/#stringrange string-range()]''' ...<br />
</code><br />
<br />
Notice that '''string-range()''' is mentioned twice in the diagram above. This is just a coincidence that has generated some confusion in the past but, hopefully, will not do so any longer.<br />
<br />
The XPointer xpointer() scheme uses [http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#corelib XPath functions] and adds to them [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/#xptr-functions several others], which, by entering the inter-character space, are able to cleverly address what no XPath has been able to address before. Among these functions is one called string-range().<br />
<br />
Thus the difference between the W3C's <code>(location-set) string-range(location-set, string-to-match, offset?, length?)</code> '''function''' and the TEI's <code>(string) string-range(pointer, offset, length?)</code> '''scheme''' is not merely a difference in the definition, but also a difference in the status. There is at least one important consequence of this, worth bearing in mind: '''the status and implementation of TEI's schemes does not directly depend on the status and implementation of the xpointer() scheme'''. Of course, one can hope that the former may piggyback on the latter, from the perspective of software developers.<br />
<br />
== XPointer syntax ==<br />
<br />
The term "XPointer syntax" is used here informally. Its practical relevance is that it allows for two things: addressing by ID and using multiple pointers. Still informally, the syntax may be sketched as follows:<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
Pointer ::= ID | SchemeBased<br />
SchemeBased ::= PointerPart+</pre><br />
<br />
The first alternative allows for addressing by ID, reminiscent of HTML: <code>"resource.xml#ID"</code> (which may also use the element() scheme, as in <code>"resource.xml#element(ID)"</code>), and the other for sequencing schemes, as in the examples below:<br />
<br />
#<code>"resource.xml#xpointer((//p)[1])element(p1)"</code><br />
#<code>"resource.xml#xmlns(tei=<nowiki>http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0</nowiki>)xpointer(//tei:p[1])"</code><br />
<br />
The XPointer processor must evaluate such sequences from left to right and stop whenever it succeeds in making a match. This means that in the first case, ''if the scheme is recognized'', the processor tries to match the first of all <p&gt; elements that can be found in the document, and if it does not succeed, it moves to the second scheme and looks for the first element identified by the ID "p1". Notice that this setup makes it '''possible for us to use TEI-defined schemes with any processor, provided that we provide some kind of fallback''' as the last scheme. Does that buy us much? Hardly, but it's a step forward until the processor starts recognizing TEI schemes.<br />
<br />
The second example sequence involves namespace binding: the xmlns() scheme binds the prefix, returns no result, so the processor moves to the next scheme and tries to make a match against, this time, a namespace-qualified element name.<br />
<br />
<br />
The fact that the non-W3C schemes xpath1() and smlxpath1() are supported and in use ('''note:''' what are the tools that support them? -- need to find that out), makes it more likely for us to get the developers to plug in TEI-defined schemes into their tools. Of course these schemes have to be coded first, but that was obvious from the beginning. <br />
<br />
Pushing the xpointer() scheme ahead might result in our being able to reuse the routines handling that scheme, which would reduce the work on TEI-scheme-handling.<br />
<br />
Link to [[Xpath12match.xslt]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
'''Here I have to stop for a while'''<br />
<br />
What follows is a mess for now.<br />
<br />
== Lobbying section ==<br />
(Refer to my unfinished essay on [[community efforts]] that will probably have to wait for after TEI-MM; this section is obviously also unfinished.)<br />
<br />
=== libxml2 ===<br />
[http://xmlsoft.org/index.html Libxml2] is to my knowledge the only XML toolkit that has rudimentary support for XPointer's xpointer() schema. In fact, the support is rather bad... but at least it is there and can be fixed and extended if the need for it can be demonstrated. (The trick with diploma works may also work here -- there is a separate XPointer module that the student can concentrate on, possibly having an eye on what is common in handling the xpointer() scheme and the TEI-defined schemes)<br />
<br />
In fact, the TEI doesn't need the xpointer() scheme to be supported in xmllint (libxml2's parser) -- it just needs the general XPointer Framework to work (see the Addendum below for explanation).<br />
<br />
<br />
'''This is a fragment of my e-mail, with some links in it, about the xpointer/xinclude stuff'''<br />
<br />
Have to extract some bits from this fragment still.<br />
<br />
<tt><br />
I searched for freely-available free-standing XPointer-aware tools<br />
and found out that only libxml2 (with xmllint) comes reasonably close,<br />
but its XPointer support is incomplete and buggy. I reported some of<br />
that on TEI-L some time ago. Since then, libxml2 has seen two bugfix<br />
releases, but the crucial functionality is still missing.<br />
<br />
We have a colleague, Jakub Wilk, who did some bug-hunting and submitted<br />
a few patches to libxml2 in his free time, but I guess both his free<br />
time and patience have run out now (which I find perfectly understandable).<br />
<br />
In case you were interested in pursuing this further, let me give you<br />
some links as starters:<br />
<br />
;"internal error, xpointer.c<nowiki>:</nowiki>2409" when using string-range():<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562541<br />
<br />
;Xpointer range-to function loses the end-point children: <br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306081<br />
<br />
;buggy range() XPointer function:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584219<br />
<br />
;buggy string-range() XPointer function:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583442<br />
<br />
<br />
I tried to use the xpointer-schema string-range() function instead of<br />
the TEI-defined string-range schema, but that was impossible for a<br />
while, until this bug got fixed:<br />
<br />
;unrecognized XPointer schemes are not skipped silently:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563562<br />
<br />
(so there is a light...)<br />
<br />
But that would require a few complications in the markup, to provide a<br />
cascade of XPointer schemas, with the W3C schema as fallback until the<br />
TEI-defined schemas are supported by some tool.<br />
</tt></div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=XPointer&diff=16928XPointer2025-07-22T23:23:06Z<p>Piotr Banski: /* XPointer syntax */ not sure if the whitespace there was legal</p>
<hr />
<div>''For use cases where these techniques might be used, see [[Stand-off use cases]].''<br />
<br />
The '''[http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-framework/ XPointer Framework]''' is a collection of schemes (note: ''schemes'' not ''schemas'') that specify the method for addressing into the XML tree or help in this task. One end of its functionality overlaps with XPath, but the other allows one to address points and ranges inside elements, and this is often precious to us TEI-ers, especially in some [[stand-off markup]] systems or for working with ontologies (RDF may use it). It was initially defined as a companion to [[XLink]] that took care of URI fragment identifiers (the strings placed after the '#' in a URI).<br />
<br />
Some of the schemes, e.g. the simplest [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-element/ element() scheme], which uses simple tree-traversal syntax, are supported by any decent XML tool nowadays. It is worth pointing out that '''any tool that claims to support XInclude, must support the general conventions of the XPointer Framework and the XPointer element() scheme''' ([http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude/#application per the XInclude spec]). The "general conventions" of the Framework mean, practically, the possibility of addressing elements by their IDs and the possibility of using multiple schemes in a single pointer (see [[#XPointer syntax|below]]).<br />
<br />
Apart from element(), there is also the [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xmlns/ xmlns() scheme] that does namespace binding, and finally the [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/ xpointer() scheme] that does an incredible lot of useful things in a very clever way, except it's not supported in full anywhere.<br />
<br />
The three schemes mentioned above have been defined or, in the case of xpointer(), drafted, by the W3C. The XPointer Framework, however, allows other parties to define their own schemes and get them registered in a special corner of the W3C called the [http://www.w3.org/2005/04/xpointer-schemes/ XPointer Registry]. And this is the point where we, as the TEI community, may want to focus some of our attention. Thanks to Syd Bauman, a number of [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/SA.html#SATSTEI-defined schemes] (described in the ''Linking and Alignment'' chapter of the Guidelines) have been registered with the W3C. One of them, [http://simonstl.com/ietf/draft-stlaurent-xpath-frag-01.txt xpath1()], is actually shared with other Internet communities, and implemented in Firefox (see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182323 bug #182323]). Another is smlxpath1() defined by the [http://www.w3.org/TR/sml/ Service Modeling Language]. Yet another is the string-range() scheme, one of the TEI-defined schemes that are useful in stand-off architecture and that may address into the content of elements.<br />
<br />
== Structure of the XPointer Framework ==<br />
<br />
The structure of the XPointer Framework is illustrated below:<br />
<br />
<code><br />
XPointer Framework<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
syntax scheme repository<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
W3C <span style="color:brown">schemes</span> external-party (a.o. TEI) <span style="color:brown">schemes</span><br />
. . . . . .<br />
/ | \ / | \<br />
/ | \ / | \<br />
. . . . . .<br />
element() xmlns() xpointer() range() '''[http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/SA.html#SATSSR string-range()]''' ... xpath2()<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
XPath 1.0 <span style="color:green">functions</span> XPointer <span style="color:green">functions</span><br />
. . .<br />
/ | \<br />
/ | \<br />
. . .<br />
range-to() end-point() '''[http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/#stringrange string-range()]''' ...<br />
</code><br />
<br />
Notice that '''string-range()''' is mentioned twice in the diagram above. This is just a coincidence that has generated some confusion in the past but, hopefully, will not do so any longer.<br />
<br />
The XPointer xpointer() scheme uses [http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#corelib XPath functions] and adds to them [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/#xptr-functions several others], which, by entering the inter-character space, are able to cleverly address what no XPath has been able to address before. Among these functions is one called string-range().<br />
<br />
Thus the difference between the W3C's <code>(location-set) string-range(location-set, string-to-match, offset?, length?)</code> '''function''' and the TEI's <code>(string) string-range(pointer, offset, length?)</code> '''scheme''' is not merely a difference in the definition, but also a difference in the status. There is at least one important consequence of this, worth bearing in mind: '''the status and implementation of TEI's schemes does not directly depend on the status and implementation of the xpointer() scheme'''. Of course, one can hope that the former may piggyback on the latter, from the perspective of software developers.<br />
<br />
== XPointer syntax ==<br />
<br />
The term "XPointer syntax" is used here informally. Its practical relevance is that it allows for two things: addressing by ID and using multiple pointers. Still informally, the syntax may be sketched as follows:<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
Pointer ::= ID | SchemeBased<br />
SchemeBased ::= PointerPart+</pre><br />
<br />
The first alternative allows for addressing by ID, reminiscent of HTML: <code>"resource.xml#ID"</code> (which may also use the element() scheme, as in <code>"resource.xml#element(ID)"</code>), and the other for sequencing schemes, as in the examples below:<br />
<br />
#<code>"resource.xml#xpointer((//p)[1])element(p1)"</code><br />
#<code>"resource.xml#xmlns(tei=<nowiki>http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0</nowiki>)xpointer(//tei:p[1])"</code><br />
<br />
The XPointer processor must evaluate such sequences from left to right and stop whenever it succeeds in making a match. This means that in the first case, ''if the scheme is recognized'', the processor tries to match the first of all <p&gt; elements that can be found in the document, and if it does not succeed, it moves to the second scheme and looks for the first element identified by the ID "p1". Notice that this setup makes it '''possible for us to use TEI-defined schemes with any processor, provided that we provide some kind of fallback''' as the last scheme. Does that buy us much? Hardly, but it's a step forward until the processor starts recognizing TEI schemes.<br />
<br />
The second example sequence involves namespace binding: the xmlns() scheme binds the prefix, returns no result, so the processor moves to the next scheme and tries to make a match against, this time, a namespace-qualified element name.<br />
<br />
<br />
The fact that the non-W3C schemes xpath1() and smlxpath1() are supported and in use ('''note:''' what are the tools that support them? -- need to find that out), makes it more likely for us to get the developers to plug in TEI-defined schemes into their tools. Of course these schemes have to be coded first, but that was obvious from the beginning. <br />
<br />
Pushing the xpointer() scheme ahead might result in our being able to reuse the routines handling that scheme, which would reduce the work on TEI-scheme-handling.<br />
<br />
Link to [[Xpath12match.xslt]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
'''Here I have to stop for a while'''<br />
<br />
What follows is a mess for now.<br />
<br />
== Lobbying section ==<br />
(Refer to my unfinished essay on [[community efforts]] that will probably have to wait for after TEI-MM; this section is obviously also unfinished.)<br />
<br />
=== libxml2 ===<br />
[http://xmlsoft.org/index.html Libxml2] is to my knowledge the only XML toolkit that has rudimentary support for XPointer's xpointer() schema. In fact, the support is rather bad... but at least it is there and can be fixed and extended if the need for it can be demonstrated. (The trick with diploma works may also work here -- there is a separate XPointer module that the student can concentrate on, possibly having an eye on what is common in handling the xpointer() scheme and the TEI-defined schemes)<br />
<br />
In fact, the TEI doesn't need the xpointer() scheme to be supported in xmllint (libxml2's parser) -- it just needs the general XPointer Framework to work (see the Addendum below for explanation).<br />
<br />
<br />
'''This is a fragment of my e-mail, with some links in it, about the xpointer/xinclude stuff'''<br />
<br />
Have to extract some bits from this fragment still.<br />
<br />
<tt><br />
I searched for freely-available free-standing XPointer-aware tools<br />
and found out that only libxml2 (with xmllint) comes reasonably close,<br />
but its XPointer support is incomplete and buggy. I reported some of<br />
that on TEI-L some time ago. Since then, libxml2 has seen two bugfix<br />
releases, but the crucial functionality is still missing.<br />
<br />
We have a colleague, Jakub Wilk, who did some bug-hunting and submitted<br />
a few patches to libxml2 in his free time, but I guess both his free<br />
time and patience have run out now (which I find perfectly understandable).<br />
<br />
In case you were interested in pursuing this further, let me give you<br />
some links as starters:<br />
<br />
;"internal error, xpointer.c<nowiki>:</nowiki>2409" when using string-range():<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562541<br />
<br />
;Xpointer range-to function loses the end-point children: <br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306081<br />
<br />
;buggy range() XPointer function:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584219<br />
<br />
;buggy string-range() XPointer function:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583442<br />
<br />
<br />
I tried to use the xpointer-schema string-range() function instead of<br />
the TEI-defined string-range schema, but that was impossible for a<br />
while, until this bug got fixed:<br />
<br />
;unrecognized XPointer schemes are not skipped silently:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563562<br />
<br />
(so there is a light...)<br />
<br />
But that would require a few complications in the markup, to provide a<br />
cascade of XPointer schemas, with the W3C schema as fallback until the<br />
TEI-defined schemas are supported by some tool.<br />
</tt></div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=XPointer&diff=16927XPointer2025-07-22T23:20:46Z<p>Piotr Banski: "homonymy" was misused here; "homography" would be more precise, but who would bother looking that up</p>
<hr />
<div>''For use cases where these techniques might be used, see [[Stand-off use cases]].''<br />
<br />
The '''[http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-framework/ XPointer Framework]''' is a collection of schemes (note: ''schemes'' not ''schemas'') that specify the method for addressing into the XML tree or help in this task. One end of its functionality overlaps with XPath, but the other allows one to address points and ranges inside elements, and this is often precious to us TEI-ers, especially in some [[stand-off markup]] systems or for working with ontologies (RDF may use it). It was initially defined as a companion to [[XLink]] that took care of URI fragment identifiers (the strings placed after the '#' in a URI).<br />
<br />
Some of the schemes, e.g. the simplest [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-element/ element() scheme], which uses simple tree-traversal syntax, are supported by any decent XML tool nowadays. It is worth pointing out that '''any tool that claims to support XInclude, must support the general conventions of the XPointer Framework and the XPointer element() scheme''' ([http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude/#application per the XInclude spec]). The "general conventions" of the Framework mean, practically, the possibility of addressing elements by their IDs and the possibility of using multiple schemes in a single pointer (see [[#XPointer syntax|below]]).<br />
<br />
Apart from element(), there is also the [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xmlns/ xmlns() scheme] that does namespace binding, and finally the [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/ xpointer() scheme] that does an incredible lot of useful things in a very clever way, except it's not supported in full anywhere.<br />
<br />
The three schemes mentioned above have been defined or, in the case of xpointer(), drafted, by the W3C. The XPointer Framework, however, allows other parties to define their own schemes and get them registered in a special corner of the W3C called the [http://www.w3.org/2005/04/xpointer-schemes/ XPointer Registry]. And this is the point where we, as the TEI community, may want to focus some of our attention. Thanks to Syd Bauman, a number of [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/SA.html#SATSTEI-defined schemes] (described in the ''Linking and Alignment'' chapter of the Guidelines) have been registered with the W3C. One of them, [http://simonstl.com/ietf/draft-stlaurent-xpath-frag-01.txt xpath1()], is actually shared with other Internet communities, and implemented in Firefox (see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182323 bug #182323]). Another is smlxpath1() defined by the [http://www.w3.org/TR/sml/ Service Modeling Language]. Yet another is the string-range() scheme, one of the TEI-defined schemes that are useful in stand-off architecture and that may address into the content of elements.<br />
<br />
== Structure of the XPointer Framework ==<br />
<br />
The structure of the XPointer Framework is illustrated below:<br />
<br />
<code><br />
XPointer Framework<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
syntax scheme repository<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
W3C <span style="color:brown">schemes</span> external-party (a.o. TEI) <span style="color:brown">schemes</span><br />
. . . . . .<br />
/ | \ / | \<br />
/ | \ / | \<br />
. . . . . .<br />
element() xmlns() xpointer() range() '''[http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/SA.html#SATSSR string-range()]''' ... xpath2()<br />
. .<br />
/ \<br />
/ \<br />
. .<br />
XPath 1.0 <span style="color:green">functions</span> XPointer <span style="color:green">functions</span><br />
. . .<br />
/ | \<br />
/ | \<br />
. . .<br />
range-to() end-point() '''[http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/#stringrange string-range()]''' ...<br />
</code><br />
<br />
Notice that '''string-range()''' is mentioned twice in the diagram above. This is just a coincidence that has generated some confusion in the past but, hopefully, will not do so any longer.<br />
<br />
The XPointer xpointer() scheme uses [http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#corelib XPath functions] and adds to them [http://www.w3.org/TR/xptr-xpointer/#xptr-functions several others], which, by entering the inter-character space, are able to cleverly address what no XPath has been able to address before. Among these functions is one called string-range().<br />
<br />
Thus the difference between the W3C's <code>(location-set) string-range(location-set, string-to-match, offset?, length?)</code> '''function''' and the TEI's <code>(string) string-range(pointer, offset, length?)</code> '''scheme''' is not merely a difference in the definition, but also a difference in the status. There is at least one important consequence of this, worth bearing in mind: '''the status and implementation of TEI's schemes does not directly depend on the status and implementation of the xpointer() scheme'''. Of course, one can hope that the former may piggyback on the latter, from the perspective of software developers.<br />
<br />
== XPointer syntax ==<br />
<br />
The term "XPointer syntax" is used here informally. Its practical relevance is that it allows for two things: addressing by ID and using multiple pointers. Still informally, the syntax may be sketched as follows:<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
Pointer ::= ID | SchemeBased<br />
SchemeBased ::= PointerPart+</pre><br />
<br />
The first alternative allows for addressing by ID, reminiscent of HTML: <code>"resource.xml#ID"</code> (which may also use the element() scheme, as in <code>"resource.xml#element(ID)"</code>), and the other for sequencing schemes, as in the examples below:<br />
<br />
#<code>"resource.xml#xpointer((//p)[1]) element(p1)"</code><br />
#<code>"resource.xml#xmlns(tei=<nowiki>http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0</nowiki>)xpointer(//tei:p[1])"</code><br />
<br />
The XPointer processor must evaluate such sequences from left to right and stop whenever it succeeds in making a match. This means that in the first case, ''if the scheme is recognized'', the processor tries to match the first of all <p&gt; elements that can be found in the document, and if it does not succeed, it moves to the second scheme and looks for the first element identified by the ID "p1". Notice that this setup makes it '''possible for us to use TEI-defined schemes with any processor, provided that we provide some kind of fallback''' as the last scheme. Does that buy us much? Hardly, but it's a step forward until the processor starts recognizing TEI schemes.<br />
<br />
The second example sequence involves namespace binding: the xmlns() scheme binds the prefix, returns no result, so the processor moves to the next scheme and tries to make a match against, this time, a namespace-qualified element name.<br />
<br />
<br />
The fact that the non-W3C schemes xpath1() and smlxpath1() are supported and in use ('''note:''' what are the tools that support them? -- need to find that out), makes it more likely for us to get the developers to plug in TEI-defined schemes into their tools. Of course these schemes have to be coded first, but that was obvious from the beginning. <br />
<br />
Pushing the xpointer() scheme ahead might result in our being able to reuse the routines handling that scheme, which would reduce the work on TEI-scheme-handling.<br />
<br />
Link to [[Xpath12match.xslt]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
'''Here I have to stop for a while'''<br />
<br />
What follows is a mess for now.<br />
<br />
== Lobbying section ==<br />
(Refer to my unfinished essay on [[community efforts]] that will probably have to wait for after TEI-MM; this section is obviously also unfinished.)<br />
<br />
=== libxml2 ===<br />
[http://xmlsoft.org/index.html Libxml2] is to my knowledge the only XML toolkit that has rudimentary support for XPointer's xpointer() schema. In fact, the support is rather bad... but at least it is there and can be fixed and extended if the need for it can be demonstrated. (The trick with diploma works may also work here -- there is a separate XPointer module that the student can concentrate on, possibly having an eye on what is common in handling the xpointer() scheme and the TEI-defined schemes)<br />
<br />
In fact, the TEI doesn't need the xpointer() scheme to be supported in xmllint (libxml2's parser) -- it just needs the general XPointer Framework to work (see the Addendum below for explanation).<br />
<br />
<br />
'''This is a fragment of my e-mail, with some links in it, about the xpointer/xinclude stuff'''<br />
<br />
Have to extract some bits from this fragment still.<br />
<br />
<tt><br />
I searched for freely-available free-standing XPointer-aware tools<br />
and found out that only libxml2 (with xmllint) comes reasonably close,<br />
but its XPointer support is incomplete and buggy. I reported some of<br />
that on TEI-L some time ago. Since then, libxml2 has seen two bugfix<br />
releases, but the crucial functionality is still missing.<br />
<br />
We have a colleague, Jakub Wilk, who did some bug-hunting and submitted<br />
a few patches to libxml2 in his free time, but I guess both his free<br />
time and patience have run out now (which I find perfectly understandable).<br />
<br />
In case you were interested in pursuing this further, let me give you<br />
some links as starters:<br />
<br />
;"internal error, xpointer.c<nowiki>:</nowiki>2409" when using string-range():<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562541<br />
<br />
;Xpointer range-to function loses the end-point children: <br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306081<br />
<br />
;buggy range() XPointer function:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584219<br />
<br />
;buggy string-range() XPointer function:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583442<br />
<br />
<br />
I tried to use the xpointer-schema string-range() function instead of<br />
the TEI-defined string-range schema, but that was impossible for a<br />
while, until this bug got fixed:<br />
<br />
;unrecognized XPointer schemes are not skipped silently:<br />
:https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563562<br />
<br />
(so there is a light...)<br />
<br />
But that would require a few complications in the markup, to provide a<br />
cascade of XPointer schemas, with the W3C schema as fallback until the<br />
TEI-defined schemas are supported by some tool.<br />
</tt></div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16897SIG:TEI for Linguists2023-03-23T22:26:42Z<p>Piotr Banski: /* Meetings */ +1</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our XML is good-mannered]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG attempted to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources. That list is not maintained (but you're welcome to change that).<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
* The [[LingSIG in Graz, Sep 2019|10th meeting]]... conGraz!<br />
* A hiatus followed (guess why) but the LingSIG came back in 2022, in Newcastle-upon-Tyne ([https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202022/LingSIG-TEI-2022.pdf/download slides]).<br />
* At this point, virtual meetings begin, so that the SIG can keep in touch between MMs. The first virtual meeting was held in March 2023 (slides: when ready).<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[Trafilatura]]<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]] (inactive)<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16896SIG:TEI for Linguists2023-01-20T00:39:46Z<p>Piotr Banski: /* Meetings */ date correction, reality bit</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our XML is good-mannered]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG attempted to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources. That list is not maintained (but you're welcome to change that).<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
* The [[LingSIG in Graz, Sep 2019|10th meeting]]... conGraz!<br />
* A hiatus followed (guess why) but the LingSIG came back in 2022, in Newcastle-upon-Tyne ([https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202022/LingSIG-TEI-2022.pdf/download slides]).<br />
* The upcoming meeting is going to be virtual. It is tentatively scheduled for March 2023 (details on the mailing list and at GitHub)<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[Trafilatura]]<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]] (inactive)<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16893SIG:TEI for Linguists2022-11-18T11:49:39Z<p>Piotr Banski: tidbits</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our XML is good-mannered]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG attempted to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources. That list is not maintained (but you're welcome to change that).<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
* The [[LingSIG in Graz, Sep 2019|10th meeting]]... conGraz!<br />
* A hiatus followed (guess why) but the LingSIG came back in 2022, in Newcastle-upon-Tyne ([https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202022/LingSIG-TEI-2022.pdf/download slides]).<br />
* The upcoming meeting is going to be virtual. It is scheduled for January 19th, 2023 (details on the mailing list and at GitHub)<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[Trafilatura]]<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]] (inactive)<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16892SIG:TEI for Linguists2022-11-18T11:38:30Z<p>Piotr Banski: tidbits</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our XML is good-mannered]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG attempted to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources. That list is not maintained (but you're welcome to change that).<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
* The [[LingSIG in Graz, Sep 2019|10th meeting]]... conGraz!<br />
* A hiatus followed (guess why) but the LingSIG came back in 2022, in Newcastle-upon-Tyne ([https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202022/LingSIG-TEI-2022.pdf/download slides]).<br />
* The upcoming meeting is going to be virtual. It is scheduled for January 19th, 2023 (details on the mailing list and at GitHub)<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[Trafilatura]]<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]]<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== Tools - reports of non-TEI linguistic tools working / not working with TEI ==<br />
* [http://gate.ac.uk/ GATE] doesn't do XML see [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.gate.general/5257/focus=5301 XML parsing issue: consecutive empty elements mishandled] (report from 2009 -- that may have changed; any news?)<br />
* See also the TEI-influenced or TEI-based tools: [[Xaira]], [[TXM]], [[wikipedia:Poliqarp|Poliqarp]], [[Philologic]] and [http://zil.ipipan.waw.pl/Anotatornia/ Anotatornia]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16891SIG:TEI for Linguists2022-11-18T11:08:42Z<p>Piotr Banski: updates</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/TEI_for_Linguists/ Official TEI SIG page]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our code is nice]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG will attempt to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources.<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
* The [[LingSIG in Graz, Sep 2019|10th meeting]]... conGraz!<br />
* A hiatus followed (guess why) but the LingSIG came back in 2022, in Newcastle-upon-Tyne ([https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202022/LingSIG-TEI-2022.pdf/download slides]).<br />
* The upcoming meeting is going to be virtual. It is scheduled for January 19th, 2023 (details on the mailing list and at GitHub)<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[Trafilatura]]<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]]<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== Tools - reports of non-TEI linguistic tools working / not working with TEI ==<br />
* [http://gate.ac.uk/ GATE] doesn't do XML see [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.gate.general/5257/focus=5301 XML parsing issue: consecutive empty elements mishandled] (report from 2009 -- that may have changed; any news?)<br />
* See also the TEI-influenced or TEI-based tools: [[Xaira]], [[TXM]], [[wikipedia:Poliqarp|Poliqarp]], [[Philologic]] and [http://zil.ipipan.waw.pl/Anotatornia/ Anotatornia]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16800SIG:TEI for Linguists2020-08-06T13:35:00Z<p>Piotr Banski: /* Projects */ + Trafilatura</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/TEI_for_Linguists/ Official TEI SIG page]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our code is nice]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities (will) include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG will attempt to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources.<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
* The [[LingSIG in Graz, Sep 2019|10th meeting]]... conGraz!<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[Trafilatura]]<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]]<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== Tools - reports of non-TEI linguistic tools working / not working with TEI ==<br />
* [http://gate.ac.uk/ GATE] doesn't do XML see [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.gate.general/5257/focus=5301 XML parsing issue: consecutive empty elements mishandled] (report from 2009 -- that may have changed; any news?)<br />
* See also the TEI-influenced or TEI-based tools: [[Xaira]], [[TXM]], [[wikipedia:Poliqarp|Poliqarp]], [[Philologic]] and [http://zil.ipipan.waw.pl/Anotatornia/ Anotatornia]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=Trafilatura&diff=16799Trafilatura2020-08-06T13:30:15Z<p>Piotr Banski: text prepared by Adrien Barbaresi</p>
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<div>[[Category:Tools]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Development tools]]<br />
[[Category:Conversion and preprocessing tools]]<br />
[[Category:Testing and QA tools]]<br />
[[Category:Analysis tools]]<br />
[[Category:All-in-one Tools]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Discovering]]<br />
[[Category:Annotating]]<br />
[[Category:Sampling]]<br />
<br />
== Synopsis ==<br />
<br />
Trafilatura is a Python library and command-line tool which processes<br />
HTML documents and converts the output to plain text, CSV, JSON, XML and<br />
TEI-XML. It seamlessly downloads, parses, and scrapes web page data: it<br />
can extract metadata, the main body text and comments while preserving<br />
part of the text formatting and page structure. It also includes a<br />
parser and validator for TEI documents.<br />
<br />
Distinguishing between whole page and essential parts can help to<br />
alleviate many quality problems related to web texts as it deals with<br />
the noise consisting of recurring elements (headers and footers, ads,<br />
links/blogroll). The extractor has to be precise enough not to miss<br />
texts or discard valid documents, robust but also reasonably fast. It is<br />
designed to run in production on millions of web documents.<br />
<br />
This effort serves the development of methods for deriving information<br />
from web documents in order to build text databases for research,<br />
especially for linguistic analysis and natural language processing as<br />
part of projects by the Center for Digital Lexicography of German<br />
([https://zdl.org ZDL] and [https://www.dwds.de DWDS]). A significant<br />
challenge resides in the ability to extract and pre-process web texts to<br />
meet scientific expectations: Web corpus construction involves numerous<br />
design decisions, and this software package helps facilitate collection<br />
and enhance corpus quality.<br />
<br />
== Features ==<br />
<br />
* Robust extraction algorithm preserving<br />
** Metadata (title, author, date, site name, categories and tags)<br />
** Structural elements (paragraphs, titles, lists, quotes, code, line breaks, in-line text formatting)<br />
* Seamless, parallelized online (including page retrieval) or offline processing<br />
* TEI-XML supported as output format, including document validation<br />
* Management of download/URL lists (ATOM/RSS feeds, URL queues, blacklisting)<br />
<br />
== User commentary ==<br />
<br />
'''Please sign all comments.'''<br />
<br />
== System requirements ==<br />
<br />
The software is tested on MacOS and Linux, it is expected to work on<br />
Windows as well. It supports all common Python 3 versions (3.4 upwards).<br />
<br />
== Source code and licensing ==<br />
<br />
Open-source software under [https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html GNU General Public License v3.0].<br />
<br />
Source code homepage: see [https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura GitHub repository].<br />
<br />
== Support for TEI ==<br />
<br />
Support for TEI P5 out of the box.<br />
<br />
== Language(s) ==<br />
<br />
* Tool written in Python, use within Python or on the command-line.<br />
* The documentation is available in English.<br />
<br />
== Documentation ==<br />
<br />
* [https://trafilatura.readthedocs.io/ Documentation]<br />
* [https://trafilatura.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials.html Tutorials]<br />
** [https://trafilatura.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorial2.html Production and validation of TEI files in Python]<br />
** [http://adrien.barbaresi.eu/blog/validating-tei-xml-python.html Validating TEI-XML documents]<br />
<br />
== Tech support ==<br />
<br />
Using this [http://adrien.barbaresi.eu/ contact info] or filing issues<br />
on the [https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura/issues dedicated page].<br />
<br />
== User community ==<br />
<br />
[https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md Contributions] to code and documentation are welcome! These<br />
[https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura/graphs/contributors contributors] have already submitted features and fixes.<br />
<br />
Tutorial video in German by Simon Meier-Vieracker: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RPrVE0hHgI Content von Webseiten laden mit Trafilatura].<br />
<br />
== History of versions ==<br />
<br />
Current version: [https://pypi.org/project/trafilatura/ v0.5.1], 2020-07-15.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura/blob/master/HISTORY.md Change log]<br />
* [https://github.com/adbar/trafilatura/releases GitHub releases]<br />
<br />
== Download and installation ==<br />
<br />
Trafilatura is packaged as a software library available from the package<br />
repository ''PyPI''. As such it can notably be installed with<br />
<code>pip</code> or <code>pipenv</code>: <code>pip install --upgrade<br />
trafilatura</code>.<br />
<br />
For more details please read the [https://trafilatura.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation.html installation documentation].<br />
<br />
== Additional notes ==<br />
<br />
'''Evaluation and alternatives:''' The extraction focuses on the main<br />
content, which is usually the part displayed centrally, without the left<br />
or right bars, the header or the footer, but including potential titles<br />
and (optionally) comments. This task is also known as ''web scraping'',<br />
''boilerplate removal'', ''DOM-based content extraction'', ''main<br />
content identification'', or ''web page cleaning''.<br />
<br />
Reproducible results are published on the<br />
[https://trafilatura.readthedocs.io/en/latest/evaluation.html evaluation page].</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16692LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-23T12:14:58Z<p>Piotr Banski: cosmetics</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|G]]<br />
<br />
The [[SIG:TEI for Linguists|LingSIG]] is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03. The meeting is scheduled to last 1.5 hrs, and will end just in time for us to transfer to the [https://graz-2019.tei-c.org/ conference opening].<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities in the past year<br />
* information/poll on existing linguistics-related standardisation activities that involve the TEI<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* query/poll on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)<br />
<br />
== SIG Report ==<br />
Below is the report that was sent to the Chair of the Technical Council, with an addition at the end.<br />
<br />
The LingSIG met on 17.09 with 9 people in attendance. The meeting was<br />
convened by Piotr Banski, with Andreas Witt sending his apologies due<br />
to being tied up at the same time at a meeting of the CLARIN Board of<br />
Directors.<br />
<br />
The participants have briefly presented their TEI-related linguistic<br />
work done in the year since the last TEI Conference.<br />
Piotr has informed the LingSIG about the current TEI-related<br />
initiatives ongoing and starting at ISO TC37 SC4 and within CLARIN.<br />
Tomaz Erjavec has briefly presented the Parla-CLARIN initiative,<br />
which led to discussion on the extent to which it is worthwhile to<br />
provide translation tools from other formats at this stage of the<br />
initiative (it is sometimes worth to bring in interesting use cases),<br />
and to discussion on the @msd attribute that is part of<br />
att.linguistic and that lacks the ability to point to extended<br />
description provided by feature structures. It has been suggested<br />
that, by analogy to lemmaRef, msdRef could be introduced into<br />
att.linguistic.<br />
<br />
Another point of discussion concerned the postulated addition of the<br />
@orig and @norm attributes to the set of basic descriptors at the<br />
level of the word. Jack Bowers reminded the group of ticket #1776<br />
postulating the addition of <w> to att.lexicographic. Piotr mentioned<br />
that, together with Susanne Haaf, they have been planning to propose<br />
a new class, call it "att.normalization", providing the @norm and<br />
@orig attributes to both att.lexicographic and att.linguistic (this<br />
way, <w> does not get the entire baggage of att.lexicographic as a<br />
cumbersome bonus). Piotr mentioned several cases being made for that<br />
in the past year on the TEI-L and github, with well-defined use cases<br />
provided by Marin Mueller coming from the MorphAdorned archive of<br />
Early Modern English that Martin maintains.<br />
<br />
Next, Laurent Romary and Piotr presented the Council's decision made<br />
at a meeting held on the previous day, concerning the content and the<br />
context of the standOff element. It will be interesting to see if the<br />
proposed handling of standOff can be strengthened with actual use<br />
cases. Apart from this, the existing stdfSpec github repository,<br />
maintained by Laurent and now used by several projects, will now be<br />
an alternative TEI customisation (and it should be relatively<br />
straightforward to provide scripts for the translation to the newest<br />
Council proposal, should someone need such a translation).<br />
<br />
The resolutions of the meeting are as follows:<br />
* to introduce a ticket proposing @msdRef<br />
* to finalize work on the existing ticket #1776 concerning @norm and @orig<br />
* to inform the linguistic community of the new standOff proposal and encourage people to try and encode linguistic standoff annotations in it, and to provide feedback on that to the Council (possibly via LingSIG)<br />
<br />
(What we missed while formulating the resolutions at the end of the meeting is a point raised by Lou Burnard concerning the place in the header where documentation for the specialized attributes can be stored. Please let us keep this very important issue in mind as the next LingSIG task.)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16691LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-23T12:14:31Z<p>Piotr Banski: cosmetics</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|G]]<br />
<br />
The [[SIG:TEI for Linguists|LingSIG]] is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03. The meeting is scheduled to last 1.5 hrs, and will end just in time for us to transfer to the [https://graz-2019.tei-c.org/ conference opening].<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities in the past year<br />
* information/poll on existing linguistics-related standardisation activities that involve the TEI<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* query/poll on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)<br />
<br />
== SIG Report ==<br />
Below is the report that was sent to the Chair of the Technical Council, with an addition at the end.<br />
<br />
The LingSIG met on 17.09 with 9 people in attendance. The meeting was<br />
convened by Piotr Banski, with Andreas Witt sending his apologies due<br />
to being tied up at the same time at a meeting of the CLARIN Board of<br />
Directors.<br />
<br />
The participants have briefly presented their TEI-related linguistic<br />
work done in the year since the last TEI Conference.<br />
Piotr has informed the LingSIG about the current TEI-related<br />
initiatives ongoing and starting at ISO TC37 SC4 and within CLARIN.<br />
Tomaz Erjavec has briefly presented the Parla-CLARIN initiative,<br />
which led to discussion on the extent to which it is worthwhile to<br />
provide translation tools from other formats at this stage of the<br />
initiative (it is sometimes worth to bring in interesting use cases),<br />
and to discussion on the @msd attribute that is part of<br />
att.linguistic and that lacks the ability to point to extended<br />
description provided by feature structures. It has been suggested<br />
that, by analogy to lemmaRef, msdRef could be introduced into<br />
att.linguistic.<br />
<br />
Another point of discussion concerned the postulated addition of the<br />
@orig and @norm attributes to the set of basic descriptors at the<br />
level of the word. Jack Bowers reminded the group of ticket #1776<br />
postulating the addition of <w> to att.lexicographic. Piotr mentioned<br />
that, together with Susanne Haaf, they have been planning to propose<br />
a new class, call it "att.normalization", providing the @norm and<br />
@orig attributes to both att.lexicographic and att.linguistic (this<br />
way, <w> does not get the entire baggage of att.lexicographic as a<br />
cumbersome bonus). Piotr mentioned several cases being made for that<br />
in the past year on the TEI-L and github, with well-defined use cases<br />
provided by Marin Mueller coming from the MorphAdorned archive of<br />
Early Modern English that Martin maintains.<br />
<br />
Next, Laurent Romary and Piotr presented the Council's decision made<br />
at a meeting held on the previous day, concerning the content and the<br />
context of the standOff element. It will be interesting to see if the<br />
proposed handling of standOff can be strengthened with actual use<br />
cases. Apart from this, the existing stdfSpec github repository,<br />
maintained by Laurent and now used by several projects, will now be<br />
an alternative TEI customisation (and it should be relatively<br />
straightforward to provide scripts for the translation to the newest<br />
Council proposal, should someone need such a translation).<br />
<br />
The resolutions of the meeting are as follows:<br />
* to introduce a ticket proposing @msdRef<br />
* to finalize work on the existing ticket #1776 concerning @norm and @orig<br />
* to inform the linguistic community of the new standOff proposal and encourage people to try and encode linguistic standoff annotations in<br />
it, and to provide feedback on that to the Council (possibly via LingSIG)<br />
<br />
(What we missed while formulating the resolutions at the end of the meeting is a point raised by Lou Burnard concerning the place in the header where documentation for the specialized attributes can be stored. Please let us keep this very important issue in mind as the next LingSIG task.)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16690LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-23T12:13:48Z<p>Piotr Banski: + report</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|G]]<br />
<br />
The [[SIG:TEI for Linguists|LingSIG]] is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03. The meeting is scheduled to last 1.5 hrs, and will end just in time for us to transfer to the [https://graz-2019.tei-c.org/ conference opening].<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities in the past year<br />
* information/poll on existing linguistics-related standardisation activities that involve the TEI<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* query/poll on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)<br />
<br />
== SIG Report ==<br />
Below is the report that was sent to the Chair of the Technical Council, with an addition at the end.<br />
<br />
The LingSIG met on 17.09 with 9 people in attendance. The meeting was<br />
convened by Piotr Banski, with Andreas Witt sending his apologies due<br />
to being tied up at the same time at a meeting of the CLARIN Board of<br />
Directors.<br />
<br />
The participants have briefly presented their TEI-related linguistic<br />
work done in the year since the last TEI Conference.<br />
Piotr has informed the LingSIG about the current TEI-related<br />
initiatives ongoing and starting at ISO TC37 SC4 and within CLARIN.<br />
Tomaz Erjavec has briefly presented the Parla-CLARIN initiative,<br />
which led to discussion on the extent to which it is worthwhile to<br />
provide translation tools from other formats at this stage of the<br />
initiative (it is sometimes worth to bring in interesting use cases),<br />
and to discussion on the @msd attribute that is part of<br />
att.linguistic and that lacks the ability to point to extended<br />
description provided by feature structures. It has been suggested<br />
that, by analogy to lemmaRef, msdRef could be introduced into<br />
att.linguistic.<br />
<br />
Another point of discussion concerned the postulated addition of the<br />
@orig and @norm attributes to the set of basic descriptors at the<br />
level of the word. Jack Bowers reminded the group of ticket #1776<br />
postulating the addition of <w> to att.lexicographic. Piotr mentioned<br />
that, together with Susanne Haaf, they have been planning to propose<br />
a new class, call it "att.normalization", providing the @norm and<br />
@orig attributes to both att.lexicographic and att.linguistic (this<br />
way, <w> does not get the entire baggage of att.lexicographic as a<br />
cumbersome bonus). Piotr mentioned several cases being made for that<br />
in the past year on the TEI-L and github, with well-defined use cases<br />
provided by Marin Mueller coming from the MorphAdorned archive of<br />
Early Modern English that Martin maintains.<br />
<br />
Next, Laurent Romary and Piotr presented the Council's decision made<br />
at a meeting held on the previous day, concerning the content and the<br />
context of the standOff element. It will be interesting to see if the<br />
proposed handling of standOff can be strengthened with actual use<br />
cases. Apart from this, the existing stdfSpec github repository,<br />
maintained by Laurent and now used by several projects, will now be<br />
an alternative TEI customisation (and it should be relatively<br />
straightforward to provide scripts for the translation to the newest<br />
Council proposal, should someone need such a translation).<br />
<br />
The resolutions of the meeting are as follows:<br />
* to introduce a ticket proposing @msdRef<br />
* to finalize work on the existing ticket #1776 concerning @norm and @orig<br />
* to inform the linguistic community of the new standOff proposal and<br />
encourage people to try and encode linguistic standoff annotations in<br />
it, and to provide feedback on that to the Council (possibly via<br />
LingSIG)<br />
<br />
(What we missed while formulating the resolutions at the end of the meeting is a point raised by Lou Burnard concerning the place in the header where documentation for the specialized attributes can be stored. Please let us keep this very important issue in mind as the next LingSIG task.)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16680LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-17T10:44:42Z<p>Piotr Banski: restructuring</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|G]]<br />
<br />
The [[SIG:TEI for Linguists|LingSIG]] is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03. The meeting is scheduled to last 1.5 hrs, and will end just in time for us to transfer to the [https://graz-2019.tei-c.org/ conference opening].<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities in the past year<br />
* information/poll on existing linguistics-related standardisation activities that involve the TEI<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* query/poll on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16676LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-16T22:34:39Z<p>Piotr Banski: cosmetics / navigation</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|G]]<br />
<br />
The [[SIG:TEI for Linguists|LingSIG]] is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03. The meeting is scheduled to last 1.5 hrs, and will end just in time for us to transfer to the [https://graz-2019.tei-c.org/ conference opening].<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities so far<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* information/poll on existing standardisation activities that involve the TEI<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* query/poll on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018&diff=16673LingSIG in Tokyo, Sep 20182019-09-14T18:07:45Z<p>Piotr Banski: +category</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|T]]<br />
The 9th meeting of the LingSIG, Tokyo, Sep 11th, 2018, 10:45, Room B 2,3 (See the overall [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/SIGs SIG meeting schedule].)<br />
<br />
Topic: '''the limits of the TEI and how to push them''' <br />
<br />
==== Introduction ====<br />
Some specialized fields/applications need specialized formats, take Math ML or vector graphics. But the substance of text-oriented studies is by its nature open to linguistic description, even if the results are only used as an auxiliary device to aid searches or literary concordancing.<br />
<br />
Is there a point where we should let go and put the TEI aside in favour of specialized linguistic formats? Are there specialized linguistic formats that render the TEI useless? Or can their special features be recast in our familiar vocabulary?<br />
<br />
Much depends on the data to be described, and within recent years, we have seen the TEI extended to successfully describe the transcription of spoken language (now a new ISO/TEI published standard) or to handle computer-mediated communication (cf. the progress done in the CMC SIG). At the upcoming meeting, we are going to look at yet another set of linguistic experimental data and confront the question of how naturally it can be handled by the current TEI devices. Apart from that, several recent advances, both accomplished and planned, will be reviewed. As always, we welcome not only linguists but anyone who brushes against language-related issues in their TEI work (which is to say: everyone is welcome, do come over to learn and share!)<br />
<br />
==== Agenda ====<br />
The meeting is going to begin with a presentation by Sophie Repp (University of Cologne, Germany) entitled "Towards an annotation scheme for acceptability judgment data".<br />
<br />
Other issues on our traditionally somewhat loose agenda include a sneak peek at the presentation given later on the same day, a potential future ISO/TEI initiative on standardizing lightweight annotation, a ghost of an ancient war haunting att.lexicographic (think `@norm` and `@orig` attributes as the point where we may be politely asked to abandon the TEI wagon), and whatever the group will wish to talk about.<br />
<br />
==== Links ====<br />
These are here basically to avoid the typical "technological breaks" that like to occur when switching laptops.<br/><br />
Everyone can edit this space if they wish to share something with others (yes, you need a wiki account or you can send an e-mail to {banski,witt} attt ids-mannheim.de to get your links posted here).<br />
<br />
(Don't expect any structure here. Please add links to the bottom so that we can reference them by number.)<br />
<br />
#. http://universaldependencies.org/introduction.html<br />
#. http://deutschestextarchiv.de/book/show/20000 (see "downloads" on the right; 4 MB!)<br />
#. https://texts.earlyprint.org/works/A83158.xml ("downloads")<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1670<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1776</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017&diff=16672LingSIG in Victoria, Nov 20172019-09-14T18:07:26Z<p>Piotr Banski: +category</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|V]]<br />
The 8th LingSIG meeting. Victoria, BC., (Tuesday, 14 Nov, 13:45 UTC-8 = 22:45 CET)<br />
<br />
==== Agenda ====<br />
Convenors: Piotr Bański and Andreas Witt (possibly remotely)<br />
<br />
* Welcome + Round of introductions<br />
* Last year’s goal: lexical/concept description<br />
** Stefan Pernes: a closer look at [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/abstracts/t_109_bowersetal_conceptentry.html TBX-in-TEI]<br />
** Piotr Bański: a brief look at [https://github.com/LingSIG/Dictionaries (a fragment of) TEI-Lex0] (see also a paper by Bański, Bowers and Erjavec, [https://elex.link/elex2017/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/paper29.pdf "TEI-Lex0 Guidelines for the Encoding of Dictionary Information on Written and Spoken Forms"])<br />
* Overview of [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG@GitHub]<br />
* Discussion: goals for the coming year, new ideas?<br />
<br />
==== Report ====<br />
The LingSIG met to sum up the past year (spent with a focus on lexical/content description). Stefan Pernes and Piotr Bański presented reports on the progress on, respectively, the concept-oriented side (in the context of ISO TC37 SC3 = TBX serialization in the TEI and the return of the terminology chapter), and on the form-oriented side (in the context of ISO TC37 SC4 -- revision of the LMF and its serialization in the TEI; the ENeL/Parthenos/Dariah initiative on creating baseline encoding for retrodigitized dictionaries called TEI Lex0).<br />
<br />
Afterwards, Piotr has presented the ecology of the LingSIG space on GitHub and the mechanics open now for the members to aid in the development of the Guidelines and of the TEI outreach towards the language-resource circles.<br />
<br />
We talked about plans for the coming year (the SIG will continue and is hoping for support from the Council; this also extends to the possible space on Jenkins servers, especially if the current maintainers, Martin and Peter, will not be able to accommodate the LingSIG input). We also fully supported Peter Stadler's idea of having designated Council liaisons for SIGs.</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=TEI_for_Linguists_-_minutes_-_13nov10&diff=16671TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov102019-09-14T18:06:02Z<p>Piotr Banski: different sort</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|Z]]<br />
<br />
[[SIG:TEI_for_Linguists|SIG “TEI for Linguists”]] -- meeting 1, minutes<br />
<br />
Zadar, 13 Nov 2010, 9 a.m. - 10.30 a.m.<br />
<br />
==Presentation of the new SIG ‘TEI for linguists’==<br />
<br />
* Linguists have always been involved in the TEI, especially at the beginnings (see ACL and ALLC), Don Walker -- one of the co-founders, was a computational linguist<br />
* A new generation of linguists more and more interested in using TEI in their work. However the use of the Guidelines is not widespread enough: a lot of linguists (computational, classic) don’t use and don’t know much about TEI:<br />
**The feature structure mechanisms is widely used, but not the TEI-conformant representations of them;<br />
**TEI for the transcription of speech is also used rarely..<br />
*The SIG should be thinking about appropriate PR methods in order to spread the word about TEI also to people who do not usually frequent DH and TEI related conferences. Attentive frequenting of the general TEI list should be essential, in order to catch problems of linguistic nature and invite people to join the SIG (or at least to make sure that they are aware of the existence of the SIG; often it may happen that people from outside the TEI community who would choose not to subscribe to TEI-L may decide to '''[http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS subscribe to a low-volume, focused LingSIG list]'''.<br />
<br />
==Recruiting members==<br />
<br />
* Attendees are invited to join the newly created TEI mailing list to discuss relevant topics and follow SIG developments.<br />
* Introduction of participants: ca. 27 people<br />
<br />
==Action plan==<br />
* Proposals for a short name: Linguistics, LingSIG, LinguistSIG<br />
** note: at the meeting, we agreed that the SIG already functions under an alias of "Linguistics SIG", after the meeting, we can observe the short form "LingSIG" getting established (on a par with "MS-SIG", etc.)<br />
* Following the MS-SIG experience, a survey on LR is proposed:<br />
**A page o the wiki will contain a '''[[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|Bibliography]]''' of articles on relevant topics, where anyone can submit a title (we should aim at having a fullish Bibliography page)<br />
**An email will be sent to the TEI to invite participation;<br />
**Categorization of the field of linguistics: endangered languages, typology, transcription, dictionaries, but also ‘GIS in linguistics‘– separate the field of linguistics by categories and fill it with resources we know.<br />
* Milestones should be set out, priorities listed with approximate and '''realistic''' deadlines (by next meeting, next year, next Guidelines release etc.), what are we going to achieve by the next meeting?<br />
* Preparing documents:<br />
**Actual chapter vs. virtual chapter: Virtual chapter, a chapter that is not on the TOC of the guidelines but created along with it, refers to other existing chapters, reuse of existing resources for linguistic needs – customization, recommendation; compile things make it available and see how people react , then create a real chapter out of it.<br />
**Instead of a virtual chapter we could also prepare Virtual Guidelines, i.e. a version of the Guidelines with things filtered out that are not relevant for linguistics and some additions to focus the linguistic point of view.<br />
**Idea: We should have a thriving virtual chapter by the next meeting, when we can decide whether there’s definitely the need to a real chapter or an ODD?<br />
* We need arguments '''why linguists should use the TEI'''. Re-usability – important issue for funders. We need usability of LR to increase. E.g. lexicographers don’t need TEI in their everyday work, they may work in different databases, but they need TEI to preserve their work. The well-documented semantics and documentation style (ODD) as well as the public accessibility of documentation are also factors that should be capitalized on. (As Damir Ćavar put it: we want to make people want to use the TEI for their linguistic/LR projects; that may turn out to be quite a task).<br />
* We also need to be aware of the limitations of the TEI and know where to stop and hand over some tasks to other communities (thanks to Øyvind Eide for this observation).<br />
<br />
==Interfacing other SIGs==<br />
<br />
* Tools – check how compatible (potential) linguistic tools are with the TEI (e.g. the [[eXist]] db was mentioned as particularly TEI-friendly), there is a need for more tools; co-operate with the Tools SIG on the identification and possible adaptation of tools for use in the scope of the LingSIG.<br />
* Music – how they handle annotation of binary files vs. speech corpora<br />
* Ontologies – grammatical, lexical, participant list in a spoken discourse – some methods may be similar, Sebastian Rahtz’s TEI XML – RDF XML conversion methods.<br />
* The Overlap SIG has done its job and as such should not be expected to be active, but the particular members of that SIG may be willing to co-operate.<br />
<br />
==External demands on the TEI==<br />
* To simplify ("follow the way of the CES") or to be more detailed wrt some issues – both probably<br />
* General recommendations or project specific specification?<br />
* We don't want to follow links on guidelines, we may want something more friendly<br />
<br />
We use markup to annotate resources, there are also annotation standards being developed by ISO TC 37 SC 4 and we want to co-operate with the ISO researchers. In ISO the work focuses on very specific levels, it's not exactly the same community, there are overlaps, but not many. ISO brings strong confidence in computational linguistics, e.g. morpho-syntactic annotation. There is a signed joint agreement between ISO and TEI, so they can exchange data freely.<br />
<br />
More topics on mailing list, everyone is invited to join.<br />
<br />
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The conveners are grateful to Beata Wójtowicz for taking minutes of the meeting and to Damir Ćavar for making it possible for one of us to participate in the meeting remotely, via skype.</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16670LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-14T18:05:46Z<p>Piotr Banski: different sort</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|G]]<br />
<br />
The LingSIG is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03. The meeting is scheduled to last 1.5 hrs, and will end just in time for us to transfer to the [https://graz-2019.tei-c.org/ conference opening].<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities so far<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* information/poll on existing standardisation activities that involve the TEI<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* query/poll on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Lyon,_Oct_2015&diff=16669LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 20152019-09-14T18:05:32Z<p>Piotr Banski: different sort</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|L]]<br />
The 6th annual meeting of the [[LingSIG]] took place during the [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/overview/ TEI Conference and Members' Meeting, 2015], on Thursday, October 29th, at Université Lumière Lyon 2 -- Campus Berges du Rhône.<br />
<br />
Many thanks to Emmanuelle Morlock for inviting us to use [http://www.univ-lyon2.fr/html/VisiteVirtuelleBDRV3/index.html ''Salle de Colloques''] -- a very nice and cozy room where we were able to comfortably enjoy all the presentations (click on the right of the building profile to switch to the interactive view of the ''Salle'').<br />
<br />
=== Programme (29.10, 16:30)===<br />
* Opening<br />
* Long presentations:<br />
** Thomas Schmidt (IDS Mannheim): "[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202015/LingSIG-2015_Schmidt.pptx/download Now that we have ISO, what are we gonna do? Status report of ISO/DIN WG 6 PWI 24624 – Transcription of spoken language]" [https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/102369935850358771263/albums/6214014855751801217/6214016306256977650 (photo)]<br />
** Serge Heiden (ENS de Lyon) and Alexei Lavrentev (Lyon University and CNRS, France): "[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202015/LingSIG-2015_Heiden%2BLavrentev.pdf/download Building a TEI aware tools Matrix: what about tools for linguists?]" [https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+PiotrBanski/albums/6214014855751801217/6214016316944164658 (photo)]<br />
* Short presentations:<br />
** Sophie Minon (Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris), Magdalena Turska (University of Oxford): "[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202015/LingSIG-2015_Minon%2BTurska.pdf/download The LGPN-Ling project: two questions about TEI encoding of the semantic analysis of ancient Greek Personal Names]" [https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+PiotrBanski/albums/6214014855751801217/6214016326798237762 (photo)]<br />
** Piotr Bański and Beata Trawiński (IDS Mannheim): "[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202015/LingSIG-2015_Banski%2BTrawinski.pdf/download TEI encoding in the CoMParS project]"<br />
* Closing remarks<br />
<br />
=== Visit at ASLAN LabEx (27.10) ===<br />
Before the LingSIG meeting, Alexei Lavrentev kindly invited the LingSIG and Tools SIG members for a visit at ENS de Lyon, in the ASLAN LabEx (Laboratory of Advanced Studies on Language Complexity), to meet its members working on language corpora or text encoding projects.</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016&diff=16668LingSIG in Vienna, Sep 20162019-09-14T18:05:14Z<p>Piotr Banski: different sort</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|V]]<br />
The 7th meeting of the LingSIG is going to take place in Vienna, before the [https://www.conftool.net/tei2016/sessions.php TEI Conference and Members' Meeting 2016], on '''September 27th''', between the coffee break and the lunch break, which means '''11 am. -- 12 pm.'''. If you think that this is too short, fear not: this "general meeting" is going to be followed by a half-day workshop. We're meeting in '''Theatersaal (Theatre hall)'''.<br />
<br />
=== Preliminary agenda ===<br />
One of the aims of the meeting will be a presentation of a New Work Item at ISO Technical Committee 37 SC4, informally known as "'''ISO TEIger'''", a new joint TEI-ISO cooperation on preparing a TEI serialization of the ISO model for syntactic description (ISO 24615-1:2014<br />
Language resource management -- Syntactic annotation framework (SynAF) -- Part 1: Syntactic model).<br />
<br />
'''The agenda is open for proposals from the community.'''<br />
<br />
=== Workshop ===<br />
<br />
The meeting is going to be followed by a workshop on "[http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/lexinfows Lexical information in the TEI: modelling and markup]". The workshop is free ''for conference participants'' but registration (via Conftool) is mandatory.<br />
<br />
=== Report ===<br />
[this is a copy of the report send to the Chair of the TEI Technical Council for the purpose of being presented at the "Business Meeting"]<br />
<br />
<blockquote><p>The LingSIG had a business meeting on Tuesday [27 September 2016], with an update from the conveners on the ISO work done in connection with the TEI.</p><br />
<br />
<p>This meeting was followed by a workshop (the second LingSIG workshop after the "Querying the TEI" event held in Rome in 2013) co-organised by Piotr Bański, Charly Mörth, Laurent Romary and Andreas Witt, and devoted to modelling and description of lexical resources. The talks covered the history of lexical (and terminological) description in the TEI, selected current use cases and the "future", understood mostly in connection with the upcoming update of ISO LMF (Lexical Markup Framework) and its serialization in the TEI, as well as with the effort of extending and consolidating the expert pool coming from various directions (TEI, DARIAH, CLARIN, COST ENeL).</p><br />
<br />
<p>The second part of the workshop included a lengthy discussion (continued well beyond the initially declared time constraints) chaired by Laurent Romary. One of the outcomes immediately relevant to the SIG was the decision that for the coming year, LingSIG is going to work with a special focus: lexical/concept description. We envision a series of hands-on meetings that should result in several proposals submitted to the Council.</p><br />
</blockquote></div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_W%C3%BCrzburg,_Oct_2011&diff=16667LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 20112019-09-14T18:04:59Z<p>Piotr Banski: different sort</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|W]]<br />
Annual meeting of the [[LingSIG]].<br />
Friday 14 October 2011 11-12.30, Würzburg<br />
<br />
== Main outcomes: ==<br />
<br />
* [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|LingSIG bibliography]] report (Maik Stührenberg and Antonina Werthmann) [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Maik%2BAntonina.pdf/download slides] with Zotero info and mini-tutorial]<br />
* general remarks on the benefits of communication and joint work on SIG-related issues (Piotr Bański, Andreas Witt) [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides]]<br />
* micropresentations + discussion:<br />
** Werner Wegstein [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Werner.pdf/download slides]]<br />
** Sebastian Drude [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Sebastian.pdf/download slides]]<br />
** Martin Wynne [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Martin.pdf/download slides]]<br />
<br />
<br />
* [http://journal.tei-c.org/journal/announcement/view/7 jTEI call for papers]<br />
<br />
== Meeting Minutes ==<br />
<br />
=== 1. Opening and introductions ===<br />
<br />
* Andreas Witt presented a brief introduction of the SIG and its first year of life since the meeting in Zadar.<br />
* Introduction round<br />
<br />
=== 2. Past year activities === <br />
* TEI-journal issue 3 -- special issue TEI for linguists<br />
** 4 articles at the moment, 3 more 'promised'<br />
** further articles may be accepted as well -- do contact us about the deadline arrangements<br />
* LingSIG bibliography effort: collection of bibliography of works related to the area addressed by SIG, this happened very slowly, we were not able to decide on the form of the bibliography, time was a big issue. The bibliography should help understand the relationship between the TEI and other specifications.<br />
<br />
=== 3. LingSIG bibliography ===<br />
<br />
* Presentation by Maik Stührenberg and Antonina Werthmann: <br />
** Zotero Group "TEI-LingSIG" is open for collaboration. <br />
** Maik gives instructions to setup Zotero (Firefox plugin). The group has main categorizations. There is also a Firefox plugin that does zotero-to-tei. <br />
** There is also a zotero plugin for word/oo to to import bibliographies from word processors.<br />
<br />
* Discussion about zotero-to-tei-exporter plugin:<br />
** Stefan Majewski who developed the tool (zotero to tei) asks for people to point out bugs before he push the tool to zotero for their standalone version. Send recommendations and suggestions to Stefan (stefan.majewski @ UNIVIE.AC.AT).<br />
** L. Romary suggests also a BiblStruct importer. <br />
** Open LingSIG zotero group -- issues such as accidental deletion etc., Piotr recommends copying the group library to private library as decentralized backup copy (this is not a perfect solution, but at least one that works)<br />
<br />
=== 4. General Issues === <br />
<br />
Piotr Bański addresses the attendees with a presentation:<br />
<br />
* TEI LingSIG mailing list needs more traffic as a means of communication for the SIG members and a basis for extended cooperation or at least an expression of common stance in issues raised in SF tickets.<br />
* Reminder of what a SIG 'does' and of how this relates to what SIG conveners can do, and of how important it is for members to know what others do. <br />
* Do we need a subtitle to better define the SIG, let's discuss this on the mailing list (time was too short for local brainstorming)<br />
* short discussion about splitting the SIG among varieties of linguistic disciplines -> rejection by both Piotr and Laurent Romary (and possibly the larger part of the group as well)<br />
* Communication: Andreas Witt: we need to collect information about linguistic projects using the TEI on the LingSIG wiki<br />
<br />
=== 5. Micropresentations ===<br />
(cf. the [[LingSIG: Call for micropresentations|call]])<br />
* Werner Wegstein [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Werner.pdf/download slides]] - Baseline Encoding for Parallel Corpora. <br />
*:The motivation of the parallel corpora and its function were briefly explained. An example was presented with a call for feedback. <br />
<br />
* Sebastian Drude [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Sebastian.pdf/download slides]] - The 'Digital Grammar' Project: Integrating the Wiki/CMS approach with Language Archiving Technology and TEI.<br />
*:The Project describes the interface between Language description, Computer linguistics and Language documentation. Some of the project's aims are for example to link exemplars to multi-media utterances in a corpus or Lexical units to an online-lexicon or to separate the different levels of the grammatical description. The possibility has been raised to describe the digital grammar with the TEI.<br />
** TEI LingSIG grant possible for creating documentaion TEI for linguistics / parallel corpora (Lou Burnard)<br />
<br />
* Martin Wynne [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Martin.pdf/download slides]] "TEI or not TEI?" - presented by Piotr - focused on the advantages and disadvantages of using the TEI, with opinions coming from the heart of the CLARIN project, which has adopted it as one of its endorsed standards. The main question was whether it makes sense to use the TEI. The main disadvantages were the cost and complexity compromises to text integrity.<br />
<br />
=== 6. Closing remarks ===<br />
<br />
We possibly need two 1.5h slots next time. That, naturally, depends on whether the level of participation remains at least the same, and on whether we have something new to report and discuss '''as a group'''.</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG:_Call_for_micropresentations&diff=16666LingSIG: Call for micropresentations2019-09-14T18:04:11Z<p>Piotr Banski: different sort</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics|W]]<br />
A copy of the e-mail sent to the LingSIG list on 6/09/2011:<br />
<br />
'''The [[SIG:TEI for Linguists|LingSIG]] meeting (call for micropresentations)'''<br />
<br />
Dear All,<br />
<br />
This list has been silent for too long while most of us have been<br />
pursuing our own projects, many of which at least brush against the TEI<br />
or markup in general, as applied to linguistic description. As we said<br />
in our meeting last year, having one's own TEI-related project is a<br />
precondition for a sustainable SIG, but what has been drastically<br />
missing is exchange with others, and it's high time we did something<br />
about that, the more so that the TEI of today needs this just as badly<br />
as some of us need the TEI.<br />
<br />
The October TEI-MM [1] will include a meeting of the SIG, on Friday the<br />
14th, between 11-12:30h, in room ZHSG 1.004. I suggest that we devote a<br />
part of it to brief presentations of SIG-related projects that we are<br />
involved in. This is meant primarily to integrate us as a subgroup of<br />
TEI enthusiasts/practitioners, and the micropresentations (ca. 5-7<br />
minutes, to be decided based on the number of 'registrants') should<br />
ideally focus either on the applicability of the current TEI<br />
recommendations to our research goals or on why and where the TEI failed<br />
to satisfy them. The proposed presentation format forces brevity and is<br />
meant to provide fodder for a general group discussion that will follow.<br />
Further elaboration on these topics will be made possible in the context<br />
of the special issue of the TEI Journal, a seriously revised call for<br />
which will be announced shortly.<br />
<br />
[1]: http://www.zde.uni-wuerzburg.de/tei_mm_2011/<br />
<br />
Please register your interest in participating in this microsession<br />
directly with me, [ at bansp in the domain of o2.pl ],<br />
preferably by sketching the theme/title of your intended presentation.<br />
<br />
Because of the ongoing vacation season, let the deadline be September<br />
26, after which I will e-mail everyone involved with information on the<br />
projected presentation length and post the list of presenters in our<br />
corner of the TEIWiki.<br />
<br />
With best regards and hope for a lively SIG meeting,<br />
<br />
:Piotr</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_W%C3%BCrzburg,_Oct_2011&diff=16665LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 20112019-09-14T18:02:55Z<p>Piotr Banski: housekeeping</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics]]<br />
Annual meeting of the [[LingSIG]].<br />
Friday 14 October 2011 11-12.30, Würzburg<br />
<br />
== Main outcomes: ==<br />
<br />
* [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|LingSIG bibliography]] report (Maik Stührenberg and Antonina Werthmann) [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Maik%2BAntonina.pdf/download slides] with Zotero info and mini-tutorial]<br />
* general remarks on the benefits of communication and joint work on SIG-related issues (Piotr Bański, Andreas Witt) [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides]]<br />
* micropresentations + discussion:<br />
** Werner Wegstein [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Werner.pdf/download slides]]<br />
** Sebastian Drude [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Sebastian.pdf/download slides]]<br />
** Martin Wynne [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Martin.pdf/download slides]]<br />
<br />
<br />
* [http://journal.tei-c.org/journal/announcement/view/7 jTEI call for papers]<br />
<br />
== Meeting Minutes ==<br />
<br />
=== 1. Opening and introductions ===<br />
<br />
* Andreas Witt presented a brief introduction of the SIG and its first year of life since the meeting in Zadar.<br />
* Introduction round<br />
<br />
=== 2. Past year activities === <br />
* TEI-journal issue 3 -- special issue TEI for linguists<br />
** 4 articles at the moment, 3 more 'promised'<br />
** further articles may be accepted as well -- do contact us about the deadline arrangements<br />
* LingSIG bibliography effort: collection of bibliography of works related to the area addressed by SIG, this happened very slowly, we were not able to decide on the form of the bibliography, time was a big issue. The bibliography should help understand the relationship between the TEI and other specifications.<br />
<br />
=== 3. LingSIG bibliography ===<br />
<br />
* Presentation by Maik Stührenberg and Antonina Werthmann: <br />
** Zotero Group "TEI-LingSIG" is open for collaboration. <br />
** Maik gives instructions to setup Zotero (Firefox plugin). The group has main categorizations. There is also a Firefox plugin that does zotero-to-tei. <br />
** There is also a zotero plugin for word/oo to to import bibliographies from word processors.<br />
<br />
* Discussion about zotero-to-tei-exporter plugin:<br />
** Stefan Majewski who developed the tool (zotero to tei) asks for people to point out bugs before he push the tool to zotero for their standalone version. Send recommendations and suggestions to Stefan (stefan.majewski @ UNIVIE.AC.AT).<br />
** L. Romary suggests also a BiblStruct importer. <br />
** Open LingSIG zotero group -- issues such as accidental deletion etc., Piotr recommends copying the group library to private library as decentralized backup copy (this is not a perfect solution, but at least one that works)<br />
<br />
=== 4. General Issues === <br />
<br />
Piotr Bański addresses the attendees with a presentation:<br />
<br />
* TEI LingSIG mailing list needs more traffic as a means of communication for the SIG members and a basis for extended cooperation or at least an expression of common stance in issues raised in SF tickets.<br />
* Reminder of what a SIG 'does' and of how this relates to what SIG conveners can do, and of how important it is for members to know what others do. <br />
* Do we need a subtitle to better define the SIG, let's discuss this on the mailing list (time was too short for local brainstorming)<br />
* short discussion about splitting the SIG among varieties of linguistic disciplines -> rejection by both Piotr and Laurent Romary (and possibly the larger part of the group as well)<br />
* Communication: Andreas Witt: we need to collect information about linguistic projects using the TEI on the LingSIG wiki<br />
<br />
=== 5. Micropresentations ===<br />
(cf. the [[LingSIG: Call for micropresentations|call]])<br />
* Werner Wegstein [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Werner.pdf/download slides]] - Baseline Encoding for Parallel Corpora. <br />
*:The motivation of the parallel corpora and its function were briefly explained. An example was presented with a call for feedback. <br />
<br />
* Sebastian Drude [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Sebastian.pdf/download slides]] - The 'Digital Grammar' Project: Integrating the Wiki/CMS approach with Language Archiving Technology and TEI.<br />
*:The Project describes the interface between Language description, Computer linguistics and Language documentation. Some of the project's aims are for example to link exemplars to multi-media utterances in a corpus or Lexical units to an online-lexicon or to separate the different levels of the grammatical description. The possibility has been raised to describe the digital grammar with the TEI.<br />
** TEI LingSIG grant possible for creating documentaion TEI for linguistics / parallel corpora (Lou Burnard)<br />
<br />
* Martin Wynne [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Martin.pdf/download slides]] "TEI or not TEI?" - presented by Piotr - focused on the advantages and disadvantages of using the TEI, with opinions coming from the heart of the CLARIN project, which has adopted it as one of its endorsed standards. The main question was whether it makes sense to use the TEI. The main disadvantages were the cost and complexity compromises to text integrity.<br />
<br />
=== 6. Closing remarks ===<br />
<br />
We possibly need two 1.5h slots next time. That, naturally, depends on whether the level of participation remains at least the same, and on whether we have something new to report and discuss '''as a group'''.</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16664LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-14T17:58:00Z<p>Piotr Banski: a bit more info</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics]]<br />
<br />
The LingSIG is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03. The meeting is scheduled to last 1.5 hrs, and will end just in time for us to transfer to the [https://graz-2019.tei-c.org/ conference opening].<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities so far<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* information/poll on existing standardisation activities that involve the TEI<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* query/poll on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16663SIG:TEI for Linguists2019-09-14T13:40:18Z<p>Piotr Banski: /* Meetings */ +1</p>
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<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/TEI_for_Linguists/ Official TEI SIG page]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our code is nice]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities (will) include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG will attempt to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources.<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
* The [[LingSIG in Graz, Sep 2019|10th meeting]]... conGraz!<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]]<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== Tools - reports of non-TEI linguistic tools working / not working with TEI ==<br />
* [http://gate.ac.uk/ GATE] doesn't do XML see [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.gate.general/5257/focus=5301 XML parsing issue: consecutive empty elements mishandled] (report from 2009 -- that may have changed; any news?)<br />
* See also the TEI-influenced or TEI-based tools: [[Xaira]], [[TXM]], [[wikipedia:Poliqarp|Poliqarp]], [[Philologic]] and [http://zil.ipipan.waw.pl/Anotatornia/ Anotatornia]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Graz,_Sep_2019&diff=16662LingSIG in Graz, Sep 20192019-09-14T00:33:11Z<p>Piotr Banski: the 10th meeting... conGraz!</p>
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<div>[[Category:SIG:Linguistics]]<br />
<br />
The LingSIG is going to meet on Tuesday the 17th at 4 pm, in Seminar Room LS 15.03.<br />
<br />
The topics to be covered include:<br />
<br />
* report on LingSIG activities so far<br />
* information on the ongoing ParlaTEI effort by CLARIN researchers<br />
* information on the ongoing standoff-annotation-related activity<br />
* query on the further extension of word-level grammatical annotation (@norm and @orig)<br />
* ... (please bring other topics with you or submit them to the LingSIG list)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16523SIG:TEI for Linguists2019-05-20T12:21:02Z<p>Piotr Banski: update</p>
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<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/TEI_for_Linguists/ Official TEI SIG page]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our code is nice]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities (will) include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG will attempt to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources.<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] was held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]]<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== Tools - reports of non-TEI linguistic tools working / not working with TEI ==<br />
* [http://gate.ac.uk/ GATE] doesn't do XML see [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.gate.general/5257/focus=5301 XML parsing issue: consecutive empty elements mishandled] (report from 2009 -- that may have changed; any news?)<br />
* See also the TEI-influenced or TEI-based tools: [[Xaira]], [[TXM]], [[wikipedia:Poliqarp|Poliqarp]], [[Philologic]] and [http://zil.ipipan.waw.pl/Anotatornia/ Anotatornia]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User:Andreas_Kuczera&diff=16461User:Andreas Kuczera2019-01-09T14:58:18Z<p>Piotr Banski: Creating user page with biography of new user.</p>
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<div>Andreas Kuczera studied physics and history in Giessen, and completed his doctorate in medieval history regarding the agricultural constitution of the Cistercian monastery in Arnsburg, Germany. He then worked for five years on the DFG project Regesta Imperii Online, which provided the entire Regesta Imperii as full text on the Internet. Afterwards, he moved to the science administration department of the Academy of Sciences and Literature in Mainz. Since 2012, he has been working in the Regesta Imperii project primarily on new application perspectives for digital research methods in historical studies. Actually he is involved in developing new methods in graph technologies for the digital humanities (http://www.graphentechnologien.de).<br />
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[[Category:Users]]</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Andreas_Kuczera&diff=16462User talk:Andreas Kuczera2019-01-09T14:58:18Z<p>Piotr Banski: Welcome!</p>
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<div>'''Welcome to ''TEIWiki''!'''<br />
We hope you will contribute much and well.<br />
You will probably want to read the [[Help:Contents|help pages]].<br />
Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Piotr Banski|Piotr]] 14:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User:Gimena_del_Rio_Riande&diff=16446User:Gimena del Rio Riande2018-12-10T22:45:08Z<p>Piotr Banski: Creating user page with biography of new user.</p>
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<div>Researcher at the Seminario de Edicion y Crítica Textual (SECRIT-IIBICRIT) of the National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET. Buenos Aires, Argentina) and External Professor at LINHD-UNED (Madrid) and the University of Buenos Aires. MA and PhD in Romance Philology (Universidad Complutense de Madrid) with a critical edition of King Dinis of Portugal’s Songbook (Texto y contxto: El Cancionero del rey Don Denis de Portugal: estudio filológico, edición crítica y anotación. Summa cum Laude), her main academic interests deal with Digital Scholarly Edition, the use, and methodologies of scholarly digital tools as “situated practices”, and the interaction of the global and the local in the development of academic disciplines. She has been working since 2013 in creating and working with different DH communities of practice in Latin America and Spain, especially in Argentina, where she organized the first Digital Humanities Conference in 2014 and has been coordinating DH initiatives and events since then. She is, among others, the co-founder of the first Spanish Digital Humanities journal, the Revista de Humanidades Digitales (RHD), vicepresident of the Asociación Argentina de Humanidades Digitales (AAHD) and member of the Board of Directors of FORCE11, Pelagios Commons Committee, vocal at Humanidades Digitales Hispánicas Association, and member the board of editors at Hypothèses/Open Edition, Open Methods-DARIAH, Revista Relaciones (México), Bibliographica (México) and Digital Studies/Le Champ Numérique (Canada). She directs the first Argentinian DH Lab , Humanidades Digitales CAICYT Lab.<br />
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[[Category:Users]]</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Gimena_del_Rio_Riande&diff=16447User talk:Gimena del Rio Riande2018-12-10T22:45:08Z<p>Piotr Banski: Welcome!</p>
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<div>'''Welcome to ''TEIWiki''!'''<br />
We hope you will contribute much and well.<br />
You will probably want to read the [[Help:Contents|help pages]].<br />
Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Piotr Banski|Piotr]] 22:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User:Satoru_Nakamura&diff=16402User:Satoru Nakamura2018-10-02T01:12:20Z<p>Piotr Banski: Creating user page with biography of new user.</p>
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<div>Satoru Nakamura, Ph.D, is an assistant professor at the department of Information Technology Center of the University of Tokyo. His main research interest is development and utilization of digital archives. <br />
He is promoting the development of digital archives of academic research resources and conducting research on methodologies related to the creation, preservation, and provision of the data in those archives. Especially, he played a central role in the digitization and disclosure of the technical documents left by Yuzuru Hiraga who was the president of Tokyo Imperial University and the vice-admiral in the shipbuilding division of the Imperial Japanese Navy. In addition, he is currently engaged in developing digital archives of various materials of the University of Tokyo Library.<br />
He also aims to contribute to the creation of new knowledge in humanities research by utilizing digital archives and information technology, such as Linked Data, Ontology, IIIF and TEI.<br />
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[[Category:Users]]</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Satoru_Nakamura&diff=16403User talk:Satoru Nakamura2018-10-02T01:12:20Z<p>Piotr Banski: Welcome!</p>
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<div>'''Welcome to ''TEIWiki''!'''<br />
We hope you will contribute much and well.<br />
You will probably want to read the [[Help:Contents|help pages]].<br />
Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Piotr Banski|Piotr]] 01:12, 2 October 2018 (UTC)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018&diff=16395LingSIG in Tokyo, Sep 20182018-09-11T03:33:45Z<p>Piotr Banski: typo</p>
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<div>The 9th meeting of the LingSIG, Tokyo, Sep 11th, 2018, 10:45, Room B 2,3 (See the overall [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/SIGs SIG meeting schedule].)<br />
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Topic: '''the limits of the TEI and how to push them''' <br />
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==== Introduction ====<br />
Some specialized fields/applications need specialized formats, take Math ML or vector graphics. But the substance of text-oriented studies is by its nature open to linguistic description, even if the results are only used as an auxiliary device to aid searches or literary concordancing.<br />
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Is there a point where we should let go and put the TEI aside in favour of specialized linguistic formats? Are there specialized linguistic formats that render the TEI useless? Or can their special features be recast in our familiar vocabulary?<br />
<br />
Much depends on the data to be described, and within recent years, we have seen the TEI extended to successfully describe the transcription of spoken language (now a new ISO/TEI published standard) or to handle computer-mediated communication (cf. the progress done in the CMC SIG). At the upcoming meeting, we are going to look at yet another set of linguistic experimental data and confront the question of how naturally it can be handled by the current TEI devices. Apart from that, several recent advances, both accomplished and planned, will be reviewed. As always, we welcome not only linguists but anyone who brushes against language-related issues in their TEI work (which is to say: everyone is welcome, do come over to learn and share!)<br />
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==== Agenda ====<br />
The meeting is going to begin with a presentation by Sophie Repp (University of Cologne, Germany) entitled "Towards an annotation scheme for acceptability judgment data".<br />
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Other issues on our traditionally somewhat loose agenda include a sneak peek at the presentation given later on the same day, a potential future ISO/TEI initiative on standardizing lightweight annotation, a ghost of an ancient war haunting att.lexicographic (think `@norm` and `@orig` attributes as the point where we may be politely asked to abandon the TEI wagon), and whatever the group will wish to talk about.<br />
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==== Links ====<br />
These are here basically to avoid the typical "technological breaks" that like to occur when switching laptops.<br/><br />
Everyone can edit this space if they wish to share something with others (yes, you need a wiki account or you can send an e-mail to {banski,witt} attt ids-mannheim.de to get your links posted here).<br />
<br />
(Don't expect any structure here. Please add links to the bottom so that we can reference them by number.)<br />
<br />
#. http://universaldependencies.org/introduction.html<br />
#. http://deutschestextarchiv.de/book/show/20000 (see "downloads" on the right; 4 MB!)<br />
#. https://texts.earlyprint.org/works/A83158.xml ("downloads")<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1670<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1776</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018&diff=16390LingSIG in Tokyo, Sep 20182018-09-10T16:31:23Z<p>Piotr Banski: </p>
<hr />
<div>The 9th meeting of the LingSIG, Tokyo, Sep 11th, 2018, 10:45, Room B 2,3 (See the overall [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/SIGs SIG meeting schedule].)<br />
<br />
Topic: '''the limits of the TEI and how to push them''' <br />
<br />
==== Introduction ====<br />
Some specialized fields/applications need specialized formats, take Math ML or vector graphics. But the substance of text-oriented studies is by its nature open to linguistic description, even if the results are only used as an auxiliary device to aid searches or literary concordancing.<br />
<br />
Is there a point where we should let go and put the TEI aside in favour of specialized linguistic formats? Are there specialized linguistic formats that render the TEI useless? Or can their special features be recast in our familiar vocabulary?<br />
<br />
Much depends on the data to be described, and within recent years, we have seen the TEI extended to successfully describe the transcription of spoken language (now a new ISO/TEI published standard) or to handle computer-mediated communication (cf. the progress done in the CMC SIG). At the upcoming meeting, we are going to look at yet another set of linguistic experimental data and confront the question of how naturally it can be handled by the current TEI devices. Apart from that, several recent advances, both accomplished and planned, will be reviewed. As always, we welcome not only linguists but anyone who brushes against language-related issues in their TEI work (which is to say: everyone is welcome, do come over to learn and share!)<br />
<br />
==== Agenda ====<br />
The meeting is going to begin with a presentation by Sophie Rapp (University of Cologne, Germany) entitled "Towards an annotation scheme for acceptability judgment data".<br />
<br />
Other issues on our traditionally somewhat loose agenda include a sneak peek at the presentation given later on the same day, a potential future ISO/TEI initiative on standardizing lightweight annotation, a ghost of an ancient war haunting att.lexicographic (think `@norm` and `@orig` attributes as the point where we may be politely asked to abandon the TEI wagon), and whatever the group will wish to talk about.<br />
<br />
==== Links ====<br />
These are here basically to avoid the typical "technological breaks" that like to occur when switching laptops.<br/><br />
Everyone can edit this space if they wish to share something with others (yes, you need a wiki account or you can send an e-mail to {banski,witt} attt ids-mannheim.de to get your links posted here).<br />
<br />
(Don't expect any structure here. Please add links to the bottom so that we can reference them by number.)<br />
<br />
#. http://universaldependencies.org/introduction.html<br />
#. http://deutschestextarchiv.de/book/show/20000 (see "downloads" on the right; 4 MB!)<br />
#. https://texts.earlyprint.org/works/A83158.xml ("downloads")<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1670<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1776</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018&diff=16389LingSIG in Tokyo, Sep 20182018-09-10T16:17:51Z<p>Piotr Banski: </p>
<hr />
<div>The 9th meeting of the LingSIG, Tokyo, Sep 11th, 2018, 10:45, Room B 2,3 (See the overall [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/SIGs SIG meeting schedule].)<br />
<br />
Topic: '''the limits of the TEI and how to push them''' <br />
<br />
==== Introduction ====<br />
<br />
Some specialized fields/applications need specialized formats, take Math ML or vector graphics. But the substance of text-oriented studies is by its nature open to linguistic description, even if the results are only used as an auxiliary device to aid searches or literary concordancing.<br />
<br />
Is there a point where we should let go and put the TEI aside in favour of specialized linguistic formats? Are there specialized linguistic formats that render the TEI useless? Or can their special features be recast in our familiar vocabulary?<br />
<br />
Much depends on the data to be described, and within recent years, we have seen the TEI extended to successfully describe the transcription of spoken language (now a new ISO/TEI published standard) or to handle computer-mediated communication (cf. the progress done in the CMC SIG). At the upcoming meeting, we are going to look at yet another set of linguistic experimental data and confront the question of how naturally it can be handled by the current TEI devices. Apart from that, several recent advances, both accomplished and planned, will be reviewed. As always, we welcome not only linguists but anyone who brushes against language-related issues in their TEI work (which is to say: everyone is welcome, do come over to learn and share!)<br />
<br />
==== Agenda ====<br />
<br />
The meeting is going to begin with a presentation by Sophie Rapp (University of Cologne, Germany) entitled "Towards an annotation scheme for acceptability judgment data".<br />
<br />
Other issues on our traditionally somewhat loose agenda include a sneak peek at the presentation given later on the same day, a potential future ISO/TEI initiative on standardizing lightweight annotation, a ghost of an ancient war haunting att.lexicographic (think `@norm` and `@orig` attributes as the point where we may be politely asked to abandon the TEI wagon), and whatever the group will wish to talk about.<br />
<br />
==== Links ====<br />
These are here basically to avoid the typical "technological breaks" that like to occur when switching laptops.<br/><br />
Everyone can edit this space if they wish to share something with others (yes, you need a wiki account or you can send an e-mail to {banski,witt} attt ids-mannheim.de to get your links posted here).<br />
<br />
(Don't expect any structure here.)<br />
<br />
#. http://universaldependencies.org/introduction.html<br />
#. http://deutschestextarchiv.de/book/show/20000 (see "downloads" on the right)<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1670<br />
#. https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1776</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018&diff=16387LingSIG in Tokyo, Sep 20182018-09-10T07:17:09Z<p>Piotr Banski: </p>
<hr />
<div>The 9th meeting of the LingSIG, Tokyo, Sep 11th, 2018, 10:45, Room B 2,3 (See the overall [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/SIGs SIG meeting schedule].)<br />
<br />
Tentative topic: '''the limits of the TEI and how to push them''' <br />
<br />
Some specialized fields/applications need specialized formats, take Math ML or vector graphics. But the substance of text-oriented studies is by its nature open to linguistic description, even if the results are only used as an auxiliary device to aid searches or literary concordancing.<br />
<br />
Is there a point where we should let go and put the TEI aside in favour of specialized linguistic formats? Are there specialized linguistic formats that render the TEI useless? Or can their special features be recast in our familiar vocabulary?<br />
<br />
Much depends on the data to be described, and within recent years, we have seen the TEI extended to successfully describe the transcription of spoken language (now a new ISO/TEI published standard) or to handle computer-mediated communication (cf. the progress done in the CMC SIG). At the upcoming meeting, we are going to look at yet another set of linguistic experimental data and confront the question of how naturally it can be handled by the current TEI devices. Apart from that, several recent advances, both accomplished and planned, will be reviewed. As always, we welcome not only linguists but anyone who brushes against language-related issues in their TEI work (which is to say: everyone is welcome, do come over to learn and share!)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018&diff=16386LingSIG in Tokyo, Sep 20182018-09-10T03:58:00Z<p>Piotr Banski: Created page with "The 9th meeting of the LingSIG, Tokyo, Sep 11th, 2018, 10:45, Room B 2,3 (See the overall [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/SIGs SIG meeting schedule].)"</p>
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<div>The 9th meeting of the LingSIG, Tokyo, Sep 11th, 2018, 10:45, Room B 2,3 (See the overall [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/SIGs SIG meeting schedule].)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16385SIG:TEI for Linguists2018-09-10T03:53:12Z<p>Piotr Banski: /* Meetings */</p>
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<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/TEI_for_Linguists/ Official TEI SIG page]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our code is nice]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities (will) include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG will attempt to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources.<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Tokyo,_Sep_2018|9th meeting]] is going to be held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of the TEI and how to push them.<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]]<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== Tools - reports of non-TEI linguistic tools working / not working with TEI ==<br />
* [http://gate.ac.uk/ GATE] doesn't do XML see [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.gate.general/5257/focus=5301 XML parsing issue: consecutive empty elements mishandled] (report from 2009 -- that may have changed; any news?)<br />
* See also the TEI-influenced or TEI-based tools: [[Xaira]], [[TXM]], [[wikipedia:Poliqarp|Poliqarp]], [[Philologic]] and [http://zil.ipipan.waw.pl/Anotatornia/ Anotatornia]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017&diff=16384LingSIG in Victoria, Nov 20172018-09-10T03:51:10Z<p>Piotr Banski: </p>
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<div>The 8th LingSIG meeting. Victoria, BC., (Tuesday, 14 Nov, 13:45 UTC-8 = 22:45 CET)<br />
<br />
==== Agenda ====<br />
Convenors: Piotr Bański and Andreas Witt (possibly remotely)<br />
<br />
* Welcome + Round of introductions<br />
* Last year’s goal: lexical/concept description<br />
** Stefan Pernes: a closer look at [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/abstracts/t_109_bowersetal_conceptentry.html TBX-in-TEI]<br />
** Piotr Bański: a brief look at [https://github.com/LingSIG/Dictionaries (a fragment of) TEI-Lex0] (see also a paper by Bański, Bowers and Erjavec, [https://elex.link/elex2017/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/paper29.pdf "TEI-Lex0 Guidelines for the Encoding of Dictionary Information on Written and Spoken Forms"])<br />
* Overview of [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG@GitHub]<br />
* Discussion: goals for the coming year, new ideas?<br />
<br />
==== Report ====<br />
The LingSIG met to sum up the past year (spent with a focus on lexical/content description). Stefan Pernes and Piotr Bański presented reports on the progress on, respectively, the concept-oriented side (in the context of ISO TC37 SC3 = TBX serialization in the TEI and the return of the terminology chapter), and on the form-oriented side (in the context of ISO TC37 SC4 -- revision of the LMF and its serialization in the TEI; the ENeL/Parthenos/Dariah initiative on creating baseline encoding for retrodigitized dictionaries called TEI Lex0).<br />
<br />
Afterwards, Piotr has presented the ecology of the LingSIG space on GitHub and the mechanics open now for the members to aid in the development of the Guidelines and of the TEI outreach towards the language-resource circles.<br />
<br />
We talked about plans for the coming year (the SIG will continue and is hoping for support from the Council; this also extends to the possible space on Jenkins servers, especially if the current maintainers, Martin and Peter, will not be able to accommodate the LingSIG input). We also fully supported Peter Stadler's idea of having designated Council liaisons for SIGs.</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=SIG:TEI_for_Linguists&diff=16383SIG:TEI for Linguists2018-09-10T03:16:20Z<p>Piotr Banski: /* Meetings */</p>
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<div>[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category:SIG|Linguistics]]<br />
[[Category:SIG:Linguistics| ]]<br />
<br />
== Aims ==<br />
<br />
This Special Interest Group is meant for those interested in linguistics, in the TEI, and in putting the two together.<br />
<br />
== Contact details, information ==<br />
<br />
* [http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A0=TEI-LINGUISTICS Mailing list subscription page] (acts as an unofficial list of members)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG LingSIG at GitHub]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/TEI_for_Linguists/ Official TEI SIG page]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/ LingSIG and related presentations], hosted at SourceForge<br />
* [http://jenkins-paderborn.tei-c.org/view/LingSIG/ Mr. Jenkins makes sure that our code is nice]<br />
<br />
== Activities ==<br />
The SIG activities (will) include official meetings at TEI-MMs, conference reports and e-mail exchange on the mailing list. As part of its activity, the SIG will attempt to [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography|track and record]] papers that deal with using various markup standards for the purpose of encoding linguistic analyses and language resources.<br />
<br />
=== Tickets/Issues ===<br />
The "LingSIG" label may be used in the GitHub ticketing system to informally indicate items that either have been posted as a result of LingSIG-related work or that could possibly benefit from extra attention on the group's part. Nothing more beyond that is implied; in particular, the label is not meant to exclude any other SIGs or individuals from the discussion.<br />
<br />
* [https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3ASIG%3ALingSIG+ relevant GitHub issues]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/bugs/search?q=labels:LingSIG Bugs in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/search?q=labels:LingSIG Feature Requests in the LingSIG's scope of interest (at SourceForge, of historical value only)]<br />
<br />
=== Meetings ===<br />
* The first official meeting took place in Zadar, on 13 November 2010; see the [[Zadar, 13 November 2010, Agenda|agenda]] and the [[TEI for Linguists - minutes - 13nov10|minutes]]. The meeting was preceded by the LLiZ (Linguistic Lunch in Zadar) and a poster presentation.<br />
* The second meeting took place in [[LingSIG in Würzburg, Oct 2011|Würzburg, on 14 October 2011]]. The meeting presented the [https://www.zotero.org/groups/tei-lingsig/items LingSIG bibliography maintained as a Zotero library], for everyone to use and add to (please?). Its recurring theme was "keep the SIG aware about the stuff you're doing". ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202011/LingSIG_14oct11_Piotr%2BAndreas.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The third meeting took place in College Station, TX. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202012/LingSIG_TEI-MM-2012.pdf/download slides])<br />
* The fourth meeting took place on Oct 3 2013 in Rome. ([http://sourceforge.net/projects/lingsig/files/Documents/SIG%20meeting%202013/LingSIG-2013.pdf/download slides]). It was preceded by a workshop on the "[http://corpora.ids-mannheim.de/queryTEI.html Perspectives on querying TEI-annotated data]", co-organised by the conveners of the SIG.<br />
* Due to an interplay of mostly unforeseen factors, the fifth meeting in Chicago was the least fruitful of all. Let's make sure that it will remain an edge case.<br />
* The sixth meeting took place in [http://tei2015.huma-num.fr/en/ Lyon], on Thursday, October 29th. It featured [[LingSIG in Lyon, Oct 2015|four presentations and discussion]].<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Vienna,_Sep_2016|seventh meeting]] took place in Vienna, during [http://tei2016.acdh.oeaw.ac.at/ TEI-MM-2016], and featured a half-day workshop devoted to lexical and terminological representations.<br />
* The [[LingSIG_in_Victoria,_Nov_2017|8th meeting]] was held in [http://hcmc.uvic.ca/tei2017/index.php Victoria, BC].<br />
* The next meeting is going to be held during the [https://tei2018.dhii.asia/ Tokyo conference]. Topic: the limits of TEI and how to push them.<br />
<br />
== Bibliography ==<br />
The SIG has put together an initial bibliography of works relevant to linguistics and markup (TEI in particular but not only -- the world is full of sources of inspiration). The [[SIG:Linguistics - bibliography |bibliography]] is maintained as a Zotero resource. No one in particular is responsible for maintaining the resource, so everyone is... please feel welcome to help expand it.<br />
<br />
== Projects ==<br />
TEI projects with a linguistic focus<br /> <br />
(''this is an open list'', please feel welcome to edit or make suggestions for inclusion!)<br />
<br />
* [[FreeDict]] <br />
* [[TXM]]<br />
* [https://sourceforge.net/projects/octc/ Open Content Text Corpus] (it needs you)<br />
* [[FSD Validator]] (you need it)<br />
* [https://github.com/LingSIG GitHub repositories of the LingSIG]<br />
<br />
== The most relevant chapters of the Guidelines ==<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/TS.html 8. Transcriptions of Speech]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DI.html 9. Dictionaries]: we need to have a plan so that the NLP community does consider this as a default vocabulary for representing NLP lexica (e.g. full form lexica)<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CC.html 15. Language Corpora]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/AI.html 17. Simple Analytic Mechanisms]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/FS.html 18. Feature Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/NH.html 20. Non-hierarchical Structures]<br />
* [http://www.tei-c.org/Vault/GL/P3/TE.htm Terminology chapter, now gone; a half-spoken promise of its return lingers in the air]<br />
<br />
== Related SIGs ==<br />
* [[SIG:Ontologies|Ontologies]]<br />
* [[SIG:Computer-Mediated_Communication|Computer-Mediated Communication]]<br />
* [[SIG:Tools|Tools]]<br />
* [[SIG:Overlap|Overlap]] (inactive)<br />
<br />
== Tools - reports of non-TEI linguistic tools working / not working with TEI ==<br />
* [http://gate.ac.uk/ GATE] doesn't do XML see [http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.gate.general/5257/focus=5301 XML parsing issue: consecutive empty elements mishandled] (report from 2009 -- that may have changed; any news?)<br />
* See also the TEI-influenced or TEI-based tools: [[Xaira]], [[TXM]], [[wikipedia:Poliqarp|Poliqarp]], [[Philologic]] and [http://zil.ipipan.waw.pl/Anotatornia/ Anotatornia]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
* Here's [https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;28ba674e.1007 how it began]<br />
* TEI Guidelines have their apocrypha as well, here's one on [http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Workgroups/SO/sow05.xml corpus annotation]. Note that it is absolutely non-normative, included here to give credit to the original Working Group and to provide a platform to either elaborate on or to diverge from.<br />
<br />
The first official meeting of the SIG took place on 13 November 2010 at the [http://www.tei-c.org/Membership/Meetings/2010/ TEI-MM in Zadar]. This meeting was preceded by a reconnaissance lunch (we liked both the intel and the food) and a Poster Slam presentation (boyakasha...).</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Ken_M._Penner&diff=16221User talk:Ken M. Penner2018-05-15T21:29:58Z<p>Piotr Banski: Welcome!</p>
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Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Piotr Banski|Piotr]] 23:29, 15 May 2018 (CEST)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User:Ken_M._Penner&diff=16220User:Ken M. Penner2018-05-15T21:29:56Z<p>Piotr Banski: Creating user page with biography of new user.</p>
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<div>Associate professor of Religious Studies at St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada<br />
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[[Category:Users]]</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Dominique_Mee%C3%B9s&diff=16200User talk:Dominique Meeùs2018-04-19T09:18:29Z<p>Piotr Banski: Welcome!</p>
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Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Piotr Banski|Piotr]] 11:18, 19 April 2018 (CEST)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User:Dominique_Mee%C3%B9s&diff=16199User:Dominique Meeùs2018-04-19T09:18:28Z<p>Piotr Banski: Creating user page with biography of new user.</p>
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<div>Not exactly a digital humanist, more an amateur, but happy user of the TEI.<br />
I am inscribed to the TEI-list.<br />
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[[Category:Users]]</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Matthias_Arnold&diff=16161User talk:Matthias Arnold2018-04-04T08:25:16Z<p>Piotr Banski: Welcome!</p>
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Again, welcome and have fun! [[User:Piotr Banski|Piotr]] 10:25, 4 April 2018 (CEST)</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User:Matthias_Arnold&diff=16160User:Matthias Arnold2018-04-04T08:25:10Z<p>Piotr Banski: Creating user page with biography of new user.</p>
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<div>I’ve been working at the Heidelberg Research Architecture (HRA), Cluster of Excellence “Asia and Europe”, Heidelberg University since 2008. Earlier I coordinated the European Center for Digital Resources in Chinese Studies and co-headed the IT department at the Heidelberg Center for East Asian Studies. I also participated in the research project “Buddhist Stone Scriptures in China” at the Heidelberg Academy of Sciences and Humanities. <br />
Among the projects I supervised are the “Chinese Women’s Magazines of the Late Qing and Early Republican Era” [http://womag.uni-hd.de] and the “Chinese Entertainment Newspapers” [http://xiaobao.uni-hd.de], both of which are now part of the follow-up project “Early Chinese Periodicals Online (ECPO)” [http://ecpo.uni-hd.de].<br />
I’m interested in TEI for Republican era Chinese newspapers and magazines and am also looking for partners to (semi-)automatically processing image scans of these materials and producing full text. <br />
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[[Category:Users]]</div>Piotr Banskihttps://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Georg_Vogeler&diff=16097User talk:Georg Vogeler2018-01-11T15:14:13Z<p>Piotr Banski: Welcome!</p>
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<div>Trained medievalist, became digital humanist by chance and intrigued by XML encoding while doing diplomatics and digital scholarly editions.<br />
Professor for Digital Humanities at the Centre for Information Modelling at the University of Graz<br />
Board Member 2018-2019<br />
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