Minutes from June 14, 2010 - Revision history

Kshawkin: /* Hyphenation */ timeline on letting Michael Sperberg-McQueen know about continuing Thutmose work

2010-06-15T15:00:34Z

[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation|Hyphenation]]: timeline on letting Michael Sperberg-McQueen know about continuing Thutmose work

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	* Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"		* Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"
	* '''Kevin''' will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou		* '''Kevin''' will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou
	* '''Kevin''' will check in with Perry Willett on the statement in editorialDecl.		* '''Kevin''' will check in with Perry Willett on the statement in editorialDecl. Once this happens, Kevin will let Michael Sperberg-McQueen know he can carry on with Thutmose development.

	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes\|P5 Attributes]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes\|P5 Attributes]]==

Kshawkin: /* Hyphenation */ Kevin to check with Perry on editorialDecl statement

2010-06-15T14:59:30Z

[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation|Hyphenation]]: Kevin to check with Perry on editorialDecl statement

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	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation\|Hyphenation]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation\|Hyphenation]]==
	* Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"		* Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"
	* '''Kevin''' will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou		* '''Kevin''' will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou
			* '''Kevin''' will check in with Perry Willett on the statement in editorialDecl.

	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes\|P5 Attributes]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes\|P5 Attributes]]==

Kshawkin: /* P5 Attributes */ note about testing included/excluded attributes in ODDs

2010-06-15T14:58:10Z

[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes|P5 Attributes]]: note about testing included/excluded attributes in ODDs

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	* '''Lisa''' and '''Natasha''' will also look at @reg		* '''Lisa''' and '''Natasha''' will also look at @reg
	* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- '''Lisa''' can be remove that problem		* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- '''Lisa''' can be remove that problem
	* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email		* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email.
			* Kevin said Syd can exclude elements from the ODDs by commenting them out, and everyone will be able to test his ODDs on our local collections of text to see if we use any attributes not included.

	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_meeting_element\|Meeting Element]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_meeting_element\|Meeting Element]]==

Emcaulay: cleanup

2010-06-14T20:16:39Z

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	* ODDs Generation: depends on Syd; the BP prose has to be done first; we will get that done and then check in with Syd		* ODDs Generation: depends on Syd; the BP prose has to be done first; we will get that done and then check in with Syd

	* Kevin, Glen, Natasha, and Michelle are all going to DH 2010
	== Prose Revision / capitalization ==		== Prose Revision / capitalization ==
	*Glen will revise the whole document to use Best Practice with capital B and capital P; refer to the TEI header always as "TEI header" as a compound phrase to refer to the concept		*'''Glen''' will revise the whole document to use Best Practice with capital B and capital P; refer to the TEI header always as "TEI header" as a compound phrase to refer to the concept

Emcaulay: /* P5 Attributes */ cleanup

2010-06-14T20:15:47Z

[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes|P5 Attributes]]: cleanup

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	* Prose updated in the BP (Michelle)		* Prose updated in the BP (Michelle)
	* List of commonly used attributes, see [[List_of_attributes_suggested_to_include_in_BPG%2C_and_those_excluded\|Include / Exclude List]] (Lisa)		* List of commonly used attributes, see [[List_of_attributes_suggested_to_include_in_BPG%2C_and_those_excluded\|Include / Exclude List]] (Lisa)
	* attributes, ~~lisa~~ and ~~natasha~~ will look into using the milestone with oral histories or other transcripts of media and report back next call; we may suggest that it be included as part of our customization; reg		* attributes, '''Lisa''' and '''Natasha''' will look into using the @milestone with oral histories or other transcripts of media and report back next call; we may suggest that it be included as part of our customization
			* '''Lisa''' and '''Natasha''' will also look at @reg
	* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- '''Lisa''' can be remove that problem		* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- '''Lisa''' can be remove that problem
	* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email		* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email

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2010-06-14T20:14:51Z

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	'''Attending: Glen Worthey, Natasha Smith, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins, Lisa McAulay~~'''~~		'''Attending: Glen Worthey, Natasha Smith, Michelle Dalmau (leader), Kevin Hawkins, Lisa McAulay (notetaker)'''

	*'''ACTION ITEMS'''
	*'''DEADLINE FOR BP PROSE: JULY 1'''
	*'''Remaining edits and decisions to be discussed via email'''

	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation\|Hyphenation]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation\|Hyphenation]]==
	* Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"		* Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"
	*Kevin will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou		* '''Kevin''' will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou
	* No other comments


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	* List of commonly used attributes, see [[List_of_attributes_suggested_to_include_in_BPG%2C_and_those_excluded\|Include / Exclude List]] (Lisa)		* List of commonly used attributes, see [[List_of_attributes_suggested_to_include_in_BPG%2C_and_those_excluded\|Include / Exclude List]] (Lisa)
	* attributes, lisa and natasha will look into using the milestone with oral histories or other transcripts of media and report back next call; we may suggest that it be included as part of our customization; reg		* attributes, lisa and natasha will look into using the milestone with oral histories or other transcripts of media and report back next call; we may suggest that it be included as part of our customization; reg
	* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- so that problem ~~can be removed~~		* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- '''Lisa''' can be remove that problem
	* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email		* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email

	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_meeting_element\|Meeting Element]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_meeting_element\|Meeting Element]]==
	* Kevin added to header element recommendations and got confirmation from Renee on MARC mappings.		* Kevin added to header element recommendations and got confirmation from Renee on MARC mappings.

	* meeting is now an optional element; confirmed by Renee at Chapel Hill; there is a clear mapping to MARC; KH added to the main document		* meeting is now an optional element; confirmed by Renee at Chapel Hill; there is a clear mapping to MARC; KH added to the main document

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	*'''Everyone''' read; kevin has revised; glen has revised		*'''Everyone''' read; kevin has revised; glen has revised
	* Update on level 3.5 (based on P. Trolard response hopefully)

	*No response from P. Trolard; we will table 3.5 level until later		*No response from P. Trolard; we will table 3.5 level until later
	*Michelle will move this section into the main article		*'''Michelle''' will move this section into the main article
	*Relationship between Tite and BPG is clear		*Relationship between Tite and BPG is clear in this draft

	== [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Revision_to_Tite.2FBP_Intro_Prose\|Intro Draft]] in place for group feedback==		== [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Revision_to_Tite.2FBP_Intro_Prose\|Intro Draft]] in place for group feedback==

	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Acknowledgments\|Acknowledgments]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Acknowledgments\|Acknowledgments]]==
	** Recognizing "tools~~" development~~ and ~~editors~~		* Group agrees to credit tools work (Michael and Syd) and editors (Michelle and Kevin) separately

	*Michelle wanting to credit both Syd and ~~Michael for their work.~~
	*We vote to credit the editors, Michelle and Kevin

	== Deadlines==		== Deadlines==
	* Finalize the Header		* Finalize the Header '''what is the deadline for this? i missed it'''

	* Finalize BP Prose: by '''July 1''' (2.5 weeks from June 14)		* Finalize BP Prose: by '''July 1''' (2.5 weeks from June 14)

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2010-06-14T20:11:55Z

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	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_history_of_version_3_to_Appendix_A\|Version 3 History]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_history_of_version_3_to_Appendix_A\|Version 3 History]]==
	* Natasha and Lisa will review; Kevin and Glen had already reviewed		* '''Natasha''' and '''Lisa''' will review; Kevin and Glen had already reviewed

	== [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Draft_of_History_Prose\|Draft]] in place for group feedback==		== [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Draft_of_History_Prose\|Draft]] in place for group feedback==
			*[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_Tite_as_Level_3.5\|Tite and BP Clarification]]

	*Everyone read; kevin has revised; glen has revised		*'''Everyone''' read; kevin has revised; glen has revised

	~~==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_Tite_as_Level_3.5\|Tite and BP Clarification]]==~~
	* Update on level 3.5 (based on P. Trolard response hopefully)		* Update on level 3.5 (based on P. Trolard response hopefully)

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2010-06-14T18:32:23Z

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	* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- so that problem can be removed		* Kevin and Natasha reviewed and did not find @ptr in the BP -- so that problem can be removed
	* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email		* '''everyone''' will take a look at the attributes and have a reaction -- anything we didn't need; anything we _do_ need -- for discussion over email
	* '''[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_meeting_element\|Meeting Element]]'''

	** Kevin added to header element recommendations and got confirmation from Renee on MARC mappings.		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_meeting_element\|Meeting Element]]==
			* Kevin added to header element recommendations and got confirmation from Renee on MARC mappings.

	** optional element; confirmed by Renee at Chapel Hill; there is a clear mapping to MARC; KH added to the main document		* meeting is now an optional element; confirmed by Renee at Chapel Hill; there is a clear mapping to MARC; KH added to the main document

	*''' [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_history_of_version_3_to_Appendix_A\|Version 3 History]]~~'''~~		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_history_of_version_3_to_Appendix_A\|Version 3 History]]==
	** [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Draft_of_History_Prose\|Draft]] in place for group feedback		* Natasha and Lisa will review; Kevin and Glen had already reviewed

	~~Everyone read; kevin has revised; glen has revised~~		== [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Draft_of_History_Prose\|Draft]] in place for group feedback==

	*~~''' [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_Tite_as_Level_3.5\|Tite and BP Clarification]]'''~~		*Everyone read; kevin has revised; glen has revised
	** Update on level 3.5 (based on P. Trolard response hopefully)

	~~No response from P~~. ~~Trolard; we will table~~ 3.5 ~~level until later~~		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_Tite_as_Level_3.5\|Tite and BP Clarification]]==
	~~Michelle will move this section into the main article~~		* Update on level 3.5 (based on P. Trolard response hopefully)
	~~Relationship between Tite and BPG is clear~~

			*No response from P. Trolard; we will table 3.5 level until later
			*Michelle will move this section into the main article
			*Relationship between Tite and BPG is clear

	** [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Revision_to_Tite.2FBP_Intro_Prose\|Intro Draft]] in place for group feedback		== [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Revision_to_Tite.2FBP_Intro_Prose\|Intro Draft]] in place for group feedback==

	* '''[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Acknowledgments\|Acknowledgments]]~~'''~~		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Acknowledgments\|Acknowledgments]]==
	** Recognizing "tools" development and editors		** Recognizing "tools" development and editors

	Michelle wanting to credit both Syd and Michael for their work.		*Michelle wanting to credit both Syd and Michael for their work.
	We vote to credit the editors, Michelle and Kevin		*We vote to credit the editors, Michelle and Kevin

	'''* Deadlines~~'''~~		== Deadlines==
	** Finalize the Header		* Finalize the Header

	** Finalize BP Prose: by '''July 1''' (2.5 weeks from June 14)		* Finalize BP Prose: by '''July 1''' (2.5 weeks from June 14)

	** ODDs Generation: depends		* ODDs Generation: depends on Syd; the BP prose has to be done first; we will get that done and then check in with Syd

	Kevin, Glen, Natasha, and Michelle are all going to DH 2010		* Kevin, Glen, Natasha, and Michelle are all going to DH 2010
	'''* Prose Revision / capitalization~~'''~~		== Prose Revision / capitalization ==
	**Glen will revise the whole document to use Best Practice with capital B and capital P; refer to the TEI header always as "TEI header" as a compound phrase to refer to the concept		*Glen will revise the whole document to use Best Practice with capital B and capital P; refer to the TEI header always as "TEI header" as a compound phrase to refer to the concept

Emcaulay: minute taking

2010-06-14T18:29:08Z

minute taking

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	'''Attending: Glen Worthey, Natasha Smith, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins, Lisa McAulay'''		'''Attending: Glen Worthey, Natasha Smith, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins, Lisa McAulay'''

	'''ACTION ITEMS'''		*'''ACTION ITEMS'''
	'''DEADLINE FOR BP PROSE: JULY 1'''		*'''DEADLINE FOR BP PROSE: JULY 1'''
	'''Remaining edits and decisions to be discussed via email'''		*'''Remaining edits and decisions to be discussed via email'''

	==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation\|Hyphenation]]==		==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation\|Hyphenation]]==

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2010-06-14T18:28:48Z

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 '''Attending: Glen Worthey, Natasha Smith, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins, Lisa McAulay'''
 ==[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation|Hyphenation]]==
-** Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"
+* Kevin revamped; see email from June 6, 2010. Waiting on response from Council re: Perry's questioning of type="uncertain"
-Kevin will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou
+*Kevin will press for an answer from the TEI Council, particularly Lou
-** Any other comments?
+* No other comments
 * '''[[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_meeting_element|Meeting Element]]'''