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−	'''1. SIG Grant for Thutmouse: Discuss options outlined by Michael ~~Spurberg~~-McQueen for further work'''	+	'''1. SIG Grant for Thutmouse: Discuss options outlined by Michael Spеrberg-McQueen for further work'''

	'''DECISION:''' We agreed on option E for TEI-To-MARC mapping approach for the [http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:SIG-CFP-2010_Libraries-2.pdf#filelinks\|SIG grant]		'''DECISION:''' We agreed on option E for TEI-To-MARC mapping approach for the [http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:SIG-CFP-2010_Libraries-2.pdf#filelinks\|SIG grant]

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 '''3. BPG document: Publication Statement structure'''
- See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Publication_Statement|Talk Page section on Publication Stmt]]
+See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Publication_Statement|Talk Page section on Publication Stmt]]
 '''DECISION:''' This was a red herring. Because we do not use PublicationStmt in the Source Description, there is no problem. The guidelines stand as they are.
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 '''DECISION:''' Allow <tt>&lt;meeting></tt>  in teiHeader
 ''Discussion Overview''
 *Discussion of where the meeting might occur in the MARC; Kevin will check in with Renee at UNC-Chapel Hill
-'''4. BPG Document: <tt>&lt;appInfo</tt>'''
+'''4. BPG Document: <tt>&lt;appInfo></tt>'''
 See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#appInfo_and_application|Talk page section on appInfo element]]
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 '''ACTION ITEM: Michelle''' will do a draft on completing this section. (We're up to Minneapolis DLF meeting April 2008)
-−
 '''6. TEITite and AccessTEI as relates to BPG document '''

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 '''3. BPG document: Publication Statement structure'''
-  See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Publication_Statement|Talk Page section on Publication Stmt]]
+  See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Publication_Statement|Talk Page section on Publication Stmt]]
 '''DECISION:''' This was a red herring. Because we do not use PublicationStmt in the Source Description, there is no problem. The guidelines stand as they are.

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 *For background, see [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes|Talk Page, section on P5 attributes]]
-'''
 ''Discussion Overview''
 * Syd proposed that selecting attributes is a lot more helpful than allowing everything; the group discussed pros and cons

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 == Conference Call about Revising the TEI in Libraries Best Practice Guidelines ==
+see http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries
 '''Attendees:''' Syd Bauman, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins,  Lisa McAulay (notetaker), Melanie Schlosser, Natasha Smith, Perry Willett, Glen Worthey
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 **We discussed how to handle comments on how the C & D portions of Thutmouse work; we agreed that we can compile feedback related to C & D aspects, even though we're not contracting Michael to do any further work on that. We'll probably have feedback, and if Michael can't work on them, we can save them for later work that may be funded for Michael to work on or that someone else will want to work on
 ** Add support for all MARC fields mentioned in the Best Practices and for all three mapping variants (source, tei-from-source, and tei-from-digital).
 '''2. BPG document: Discussion of whether to ''Include All'' OR ''Select specific'' P5 attributes within <tt>&lt;text></tt> '''

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 '''Michelle''' will revise the language to indicate this is a section of the guidelines we need to come back to
-*For background, see [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes|link]]
+*For background, see [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes|Talk Page, section on P5 attributes]]
 '''
 ''Discussion Overview''
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 '''3. BPG document: Publication Statement structure'''
-  See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Publication_Statement|link]]
+  See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Publication_Statement|Talk Page section on Publication Stmt]]
 '''DECISION:''' This was a red herring. Because we do not use PublicationStmt in the Source Description, there is no problem. The guidelines stand as they are.
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 '''4. BPG Document: <tt>&lt;meeting></tt> element in teiHeader'''
-See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#meeting_element|link]]
+See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#meeting_element|Talk Page section on Meeting element]]
 '''DECISION:''' Allow <tt>&lt;meeting></tt>  in teiHeader
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 '''4. BPG Document: <tt>&lt;appInfo</tt>'''
-See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#appInfo_and_application|link]]
+See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#appInfo_and_application|Talk page section on appInfo element]]
 '''DECISION:''' We will not include <tt>&lt;appInfo></tt> in BPG.
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 '''6. TEITite and AccessTEI as relates to BPG document '''
-See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_Tite_as_Level_3.5|link]].
+See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_Tite_as_Level_3.5|Talk Page section on TEI Tite]].
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 '''7. BPG Document : Hyphenation'''
-See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation|link]]
+See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation|Talk Page section on Hyphenation]]
 '''DECISION:''' tabled until next call.
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 '''8. odds issues'''
-See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Test_ODDs_and_schemas_derived_from_them|link]]
+See [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Test_ODDs_and_schemas_derived_from_them|Talk page on ODDs]]
 '''DECISION:''' We don't need to discuss right now. Syd will revamp the ODDs, and then we will review again. He will address the list of issues in his revision

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 [[Category:SIG:Libraries|sort-key]]
 Conference Call about Revising the TEI in Libraries Best Practice Guidelines
 '''Attendees:''' Syd Bauman, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins,  Lisa McAulay (notetaker), Melanie Schlosser, Natasha Smith, Perry Willett, Glen Worthey
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 '''DECISION:''' We agreed on option E for TEI-To-MARC mapping approach for the [http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:SIG-CFP-2010_Libraries-2.pdf#filelinks|SIG grant]
-'''ACTION ITEM: Kevin''' will contact Michael and let him know we choose Option E.
+'''ACTION ITEM: Kevin''' will contact Michael and let him know we choose Option E. Kevin will ask Michael whether having our work done by early fall will give him time enough to complete his work by the end of December 2010 (when we need to have spent the SIG grant money by).
 ''
-Discussion overview''
+''Discussion overview''
 *We discussed point "C" -- we agreed that 'beautification' is likely to be a losing battle (stripping punctuation marks, etc.) and it's better not to put time / effort into
 *Note that Option E includes only A & B (does not include C & D).
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 '''DECISION:''' We will select specific attributes to include.
-'''ACTION ITEM: Lisa''' will compile a list
+'''ACTION ITEM: Lisa''' will compile a list of "include" and "exclude" attributes
 *For background, see [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Pending_Review:_Use_of_any_P5_attributes|link]]
 '''
-Syd registers a minority opinion. Discussion ensues.
+''Discussion Overview''
-Look at attributes we have used so far in the Best Practices.
+* Syd proposed that selecting attributes is a lot more helpful than allowing everything; the group discussed pros and cons
-attributes in TEI P5 -- some of these are repeats in different modules
+** It sounds like a gargantuan task to run through all the attributes and evaluate yes/no and try to conceive of all the scenarios
-choosing what attributes we're going to allow in the TEI for Libraries BP
+** One starting place, is the attributes we have used so far in the Best Practices Guidelines -- in the narrative and in the examples
-Michelle will revise language to flag it as something we need to come back to.
+** Syd determined there are 438 attributes in TEI P5 -- some of these are repeats in different modules
-Lisa will take a first pass at the list of all attributes and strike through
-**''' publication statement structure [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Publication_Statement|link]]'''
+See, [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#meeting_element|link]]
-Because publication statement is only used in File Description (i.e., NOT in Source Description), then there is no conflict here. The guidelines stand as they are.
+'''DECISION:''' Allow <tt>&lt;meeting></tt>  in teiHeader
-**''' <tt>&lt;meeting></tt> [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#meeting_element|link]]''' (that section says there’s e-mail from Kevin on 10-12, but I haven’t found it yet — Syd)
+* (that section says there’s e-mail from Kevin on 10-12, but I haven’t found it yet — Syd)
-Do we want to keep the meeting element or no?
+'''4. BPG Document: <tt>&lt;appInfo</tt>'''
-** '''<tt>&lt;appInfo</tt> [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#appInfo_and_application|link]]''' (I think we may be able to just resolve this on the call — Syd)
+'''DECISION:''' We will not include <tt>&lt;appInfo></tt> in BPG.
-It's not likely that this tag will be used. So, we will exclude. If someone wants to use it, they will need to say, "I'm using BPG Level 3 plus appInfo."
+''Discussion Overview''
-** '''v. 3 hx [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_history_of_version_3_to_Appendix_A|link]]'''
+'''5. BPG Document: History of Version 3 of the BPG [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_history_of_version_3_to_Appendix_A|link]]'''
-'''Michelle''' will do a draft on completing this section. (We're up to Minneapolis)
+'''DECISION:''' We need someone to draft the remainder of this section.
-** '''Tite == 3.5 ? [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Add_Tite_as_Level_3.5|link]]'''
+'''6. TEITite and AccessTEI as relates to BPG document '''
-Michelle wrote some stuff up in the Talk page to develop this. Michelle tried teases out -- see the "pending review"
+'''DECISION:''' All action items above should be addressed prior to the next call.
-** '''hyphenation''' [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Revise_section_on_hyphenation|link]] (I think we may be able to just resolve this on the call — Syd)
+'''ACTION ITEM: Michelle''' will send out a Doodle poll.
-** '''odds issues''' [[Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries#Test_ODDs_and_schemas_derived_from_them|link]]
+'''ACTION ITEM: Perry''' will coordinate conference call through CDL
-Syd is going to revamp the ODDs, so we don't need to
+'''10. Other announcements'''
-* '''Determine timeline'''
+*Michelle is going to talk to Rachel Frick (new leader of DLF) about continued support for the BPG group.