Minutes from November 3, 2007 - Revision history

Piotr Banski: + empty links, see Special:Wantedpages

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+ empty links, see Special:Wantedpages

Mdalmau at 15:39, 22 November 2007

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Mdalmau at 20:38, 16 November 2007

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Mdalmau at 20:21, 15 November 2007

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Mdalmau at 16:26, 15 November 2007

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Mdalmau at 16:25, 15 November 2007

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Mdalmau at 04:11, 12 November 2007

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 DP: This should get vetted. From a TEI point of view, they don't have to sanction something.
-PY: Can we place it on the Library of Congress website the way METS or MODS standard is.
+PY: Can we place it on the Library of Congress website the way [[METS]] or [[MODS]] standard is.
 MD: If we start to amass documentation, we'll need a reliable, visible space.

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 * Test/Map the Tite Scheme: Paul Shaffner (Mich), Elizabeth McAulay (UCLA) and Cassandra Stokes (Wash U)
 * Invesitigate RLG terms of agreement with Apex re: EAD encoding: Daniel Pitti will contact Merrilee Proffitt for details
-* Flag issues of non-compliance with [http://www.diglib.org/standards/tei.htm TEI Text Encoding in Libraries Guidelines for Best Encoding Practices]: Syd Bauman
+* Flag issues of non-compliance with [http://www.diglib.org/standards/tei.htm TEI Text Encoding in Libraries Guidelines for Best Encoding Practices]: Syd Bauman (Brown)
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 '''Summary of Discussion'''
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+* Test/Map the Tite Scheme: Paul Shaffner (Mich), Elizabeth McAulay (UCLA) and Cassandra Stokes (Wash U)
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-''Summary of Discussion'''
+'''Summary of Discussion'''
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-'''Discussion'''
+'''Discussion''' <br/>
 '''note:''' Though the minutes reflect a transcript format, the minutes are not a literal or even complete transcription of the event.

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-Notes taken by: Lisa McAulay, UCLA
+Notes taken by: Lisa McAulay, UCLA <br/>
-Updted by: Michelle Dalmau, IU (convener)
+Updated by: Michelle Dalmau, IU (convener)
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 MD: Summary of TEI Tight Spec Discussion<br/>
 *we'll have the three volunteers take a look at it TEI Tight and get feedback
-*start talking to DLF / TEI Board
+*start talking to DLF / TEI Board about funding opportunities for the survey
 DP: Mapping from the TEI Spec; taking it out to libraries, ALA presentation, raise awareness, exposing it; the IFLA agenda, do we make paper promotion; develop a strategy for promoting it;
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 We'll work together via email to create a pitch
-MD: I'll serve as the bridge between the SIG and the DLF. DLF would like to migrate the TEI in Libraries out of the DLF website into a TEI Website and they need to be revised. DLF does not want to maintain revisions.
+MD: I'll serve as the bridge between the SIG and the DLF. DLF would like to migrate the TEI in Libraries out of the DLF website since they aren't in the business of maintaining standards. They need to be revised in light of TEI conformance, P5 and Tite.
 SB: The TEI-C isn't behind this document because it is not conformant with TEI. Should the levels be kept the way they are.
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 DP: This should get vetted. From a TEI point of view, they don't have to sanction something.
-PY: Can we place it on the Library of Congress website the way X [didn't catch it] standard is.
+PY: Can we place it on the Library of Congress website the way METS or MODS standard is.
-MD: If we start to amass documentation.
+MD: If we start to amass documentation, we'll need a reliable, visible space.
 SB: The TEI-C should not try to monitor something what's on the wiki of the SIG. However, the more you publicize something the more TEI-C will want to look at.
-MD: We can look at moving the "TEI in Libraries" document into Library of Congress space. Hopefully, we can start to make some documentation.
+MD: We can look into moving the "TEI in Libraries" document into Library of Congress space. Hopefully, we can start to make some documentation.
 SB: Is the SIG wiki the permanent home of documentation?
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 NS: What's wrong with putting them on the TEI site?<br/>
 SB: They violate the TEI guidelines and that's not good with the Board.<br/>
 NS: There are lots of places to put it: Activities, Communities, Guidelines<br/>
 MD: We should start by finding out what other documentation is being generated.<br/>
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 MD: This is the purpose of the survey. Is there any documentation about this?<br/>
 DP: I can ask Merilee Profit how this was done. Essentially, RLG negotiated a contract with Apex.<br/>
-MD: If there were this much of discount, would you participate?

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 *	Issues to address? Need for working groups? Next steps for the group
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 Notes taken by: Lisa McAulay, UCLA
 '''In Attendance'''
-* Michelle Dalmau - manages electronic text projects in DLP, Indiana University
+* Michelle Dalmau - manages electronic text projects in DLP, Indiana University, SIG convener
 * Natasha Smith - been with TF in Libraries since its inception
 * Daniel Pitti - interested in TEI and Libraries, although not really involved in projects that pertain exactly right now
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 * John Unsworth, Dean of GSLIS, UIUC
-'''Discussion of the TEI Tite specification'''
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 DP: The status of the TEI Tite<br/>

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 NS: overview of the history of DLF and the TEI in Libraries Workgroup. David Seaman provided money. <br/>
 DP: Now that David Seaman has left, is there still support from the DLF for TEI in Libraries?<br/>
-SB: Perry Trawler (GA that John Unsworth found) did a specification. I was hoping the SIG would look at this specification and be critical. It's written as an ODD. The Council saw that it was an ODD and said we have to bring it into P5. They tried to make it conformant with TEI P5. It can never be conformant, though, because it's supposed to save keystrokes. And TEI P5 requires namespaces -- which doesn't save keystrokes.<br/>
+SB: Perry Trolard (GA that John Unsworth found) did a specification. I was hoping the SIG would look at this specification and be critical. It's written as an ODD. The Council saw that it was an ODD and said we have to bring it into P5. They tried to make it conformant with TEI P5. It can never be conformant, though, because it's supposed to save keystrokes. And TEI P5 requires namespaces -- which doesn't save keystrokes.<br/>
 DP: Somebody needs to step up and do some communication. I would say that one of the things that needs to be done and organize the Library community to look at this and evaluate it. <br/>
 SB: I'm not really interested in details, but I'm interested in the "show-stoppers".<br/>

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 Attending:
-* Michelle Dalmau - electronic text in DLP
+* Michelle Dalmau - manages electronic text projects in DLP, Indiana University
 * Natasha Smith - been with TF in Libraries since its inception
 * Daniel Pitti - interested in TEI and Libraries, although not really involved in projects that pertain exactly right now
-* Catherine Walter, U Nebraska-Lincoln, co-direct research center for the humanities, National Digital Newspaper Program for Nebraska, Nebraska public documents, does scholarly and library project
+* Katherine Walter, U Nebraska-Lincoln, co-direct research center for the humanities, National Digital Newspaper Program for Nebraska, Nebraska public documents, does scholarly and library project
-* Jones, National Library of Wales, dictionary work for Cambrian (welsh journal), welsh journals on line
+* Morfudd Jones, National Library of Wales, dictionary work for Cambrian (welsh journal), welsh journals on line
 * Chris Ruotolo, UVA Library, we have big stores of legacy content in different flavors of TEI, migrating to an IR
-* Syd Baumann, Women Writers Project (not library-associated project)
+* Syd Bauman, Women Writers Project (not library-associated project)
-* Cassandra, washington university (st louis) in the Library 3 text based projects, new member
+* Cassandra Stokes, washington university (st louis) in the Library 3 text based projects, new member
-* Paul Schaeffer, uMich, basically P3
+* Paul Schaffner, uMich, basically P3
-* Cronin, University College, Cork, Ireland, Special Collections -- Celt project (10 years old)
+* Cronan O Doibhlin, University College, Cork, Ireland, Special Collections -- Celt project (10 years old)
 * Elizabeth McAulay, UCLA
 * Pat Yott, Brown University
-[Michelle has the full list]
+* Grace Wiersma, MARC Database Quality Technician, MIT Libraries
 '''Discussion of the TEI Tite specification'''