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* Discussion about zotero-to-tei-exporter plugin:
 
* Discussion about zotero-to-tei-exporter plugin:
** Stefan Majewski who developed the tool (zotero to tei) asks for people to point out bugs before he push the tool to zotero for their standalone version. Send recommendations and suggestions to Stefan (stefan.majewski @ UNIVIE.AC.AT).
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** Stefan Majewski who developed the tool (zotero to tei) asks for people to point out bugs before he push the tool to zotero for their standalone version. Send recommendations and suggestions to Stefan (stefan.majewski @ UNIVIE.AC.AT).
 
**  L. Romary suggests also a BiblStruct importer.  
 
**  L. Romary suggests also a BiblStruct importer.  
**  Open LingSIG zotero group -- issues such as accidental deletion etc., Piotr recommends copying the group library to private library as decentralized copy
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**  Open LingSIG zotero group -- issues such as accidental deletion etc., Piotr recommends copying the group library to private library as decentralized backup copy (this is not a perfect solution, but at least one that works)
  
 
=== 4. General Issues ===  
 
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Piotr Bański addresses the attendees with a presentation:
 
Piotr Bański addresses the attendees with a presentation:
  
* TEI LingSIG mailing list needs more traffic!
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* TEI LingSIG mailing list needs more traffic as a means of communication for the SIG members and a basis for extended cooperation or at least an expression of common stance in issues raised in SF tickets.
* Reminder what a SIG 'does'
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* Reminder of what a SIG 'does' and of how this relates to what SIG conveners can do, and of how important it is for members to know what others do.
* Do we need a subtitle to better define the SIG, let's discuss on the mailing list!
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* Do we need a subtitle to better define the SIG, let's discuss this on the mailing list (time was too short for local brainstorming)
* Short Discussion about splitting the SIG among varieties of linguistic disciplines -> rejection by both Piotr and Laurent Romary (and possibly the larger part of the group as well)
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* short discussion about splitting the SIG among varieties of linguistic disciplines -> rejection by both Piotr and Laurent Romary (and possibly the larger part of the group as well)
* Communication: we need to collect information about projects using the TEI on the LingSIG wiki
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* Communication: we need to collect information about linguistic projects using the TEI on the LingSIG wiki
  
 
=== 5. Micropresentations of projects ===
 
=== 5. Micropresentations of projects ===
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* Sebastian Drude [[http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:LingSIG_14oct11_Sebastian.pdf slides]] - The 'Digital Grammar' Project: Integrating the Wiki/CMS approach with Language Archiving Technology and TEI.
 
* Sebastian Drude [[http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:LingSIG_14oct11_Sebastian.pdf slides]] - The 'Digital Grammar' Project: Integrating the Wiki/CMS approach with Language Archiving Technology and TEI.
 
The Project describes the interface between Language description, Computer linguistics and Language documentation. Some of the project's aims are for example to link exemplars to multi-media utterances in a corpus or Lexical units to an online-lexicon or to separate the different levels of the grammatical description. The possibility has been raised to describe the digital grammar with the TEI.
 
The Project describes the interface between Language description, Computer linguistics and Language documentation. Some of the project's aims are for example to link exemplars to multi-media utterances in a corpus or Lexical units to an online-lexicon or to separate the different levels of the grammatical description. The possibility has been raised to describe the digital grammar with the TEI.
-> TEI LingSIG grant possible for creating documentaion TEI for
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** TEI LingSIG grant possible for creating documentaion TEI for linguistics / parallel corpora (Lou Burnard)
linguistics / parallel corpora (Lou Burnard) TEI or not TEI?
 
 
 
* Martin Wynne [[http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:LingSIG_14oct11_Martin.pdf slides]] - presented by Piotr - focused on the advantages and disadvantages of using TEI. The main question was whether it makes sense to use the TEI. The main disadvantages were the cost and complexity compromises to text integrity.
 
  
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* Martin Wynne [[http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:LingSIG_14oct11_Martin.pdf slides]] "TEI or not TEI?" - presented by Piotr - focused on the advantages and disadvantages of using the TEI, with opinions coming from the heart of the CLARIN project, which has adopted it as one of its endorsed standards. The main question was whether it makes sense to use the TEI. The main disadvantages were the cost and complexity compromises to text integrity.
 
   
 
   
 
=== 6. Closing remarks ===
 
=== 6. Closing remarks ===

Revision as of 13:09, 19 October 2011

Annual meeting of the LingSIG. Friday 14 October 2011 11-12.30, Wurzburg

Main outcomes:

  • LingSIG bibliography report (Maik Stührenberg and Antonina Werthmann) [slides with Zotero info and mini-tutorial]
  • general remarks on the benefits of communication and joint work on SIG-related issues (Piotr Bański, Andreas Witt) [slides]
  • micropresentations + discussion:


Meeting Minutes

1. Introductions by Andreas Witt

  • Introduction of SIG and its first year of life since the very first MM at Zadar.
  • Introduction of members attending the meeting

2. Past year activities

  • TEI-journal issue 3 -- special issue TEI for linguists
    • 4 articles at current
    • further articles may be accepted as well
  • LingSIG bibliography effort: collection of bibliography of works related to the area addressed by SIG, this happened very slowly, we were not able to decide on the form of the bibliography, time was a big issue. The bibliography should help understand the relationship between the TEI and other specifications.

3. LingSIG bibliography

  • Presentation by Maik Stührenberg:
    • Zotero Group "TEI-LingSIG" is open for collaboration.
    • Maik gives instructions to setup Zotero (Firefox plugin). The group has main categorizations. There is also a Firefox plugin that does zotero-to-tei.
    • There is also a zotero plugin for word/oo to to import bibliographies from word processors.
  • Discussion about zotero-to-tei-exporter plugin:
    • Stefan Majewski who developed the tool (zotero to tei) asks for people to point out bugs before he push the tool to zotero for their standalone version. Send recommendations and suggestions to Stefan (stefan.majewski @ UNIVIE.AC.AT).
    • L. Romary suggests also a BiblStruct importer.
    • Open LingSIG zotero group -- issues such as accidental deletion etc., Piotr recommends copying the group library to private library as decentralized backup copy (this is not a perfect solution, but at least one that works)

4. General Issues

Piotr Bański addresses the attendees with a presentation:

  • TEI LingSIG mailing list needs more traffic as a means of communication for the SIG members and a basis for extended cooperation or at least an expression of common stance in issues raised in SF tickets.
  • Reminder of what a SIG 'does' and of how this relates to what SIG conveners can do, and of how important it is for members to know what others do.
  • Do we need a subtitle to better define the SIG, let's discuss this on the mailing list (time was too short for local brainstorming)
  • short discussion about splitting the SIG among varieties of linguistic disciplines -> rejection by both Piotr and Laurent Romary (and possibly the larger part of the group as well)
  • Communication: we need to collect information about linguistic projects using the TEI on the LingSIG wiki

5. Micropresentations of projects

  • Werner Wegstein [slides] - Baseline Encoding for Parallel Corpora.

The motivation of the parallel corpora and its function were briefly explained. Finally one example was showed.

  • Sebastian Drude [slides] - The 'Digital Grammar' Project: Integrating the Wiki/CMS approach with Language Archiving Technology and TEI.

The Project describes the interface between Language description, Computer linguistics and Language documentation. Some of the project's aims are for example to link exemplars to multi-media utterances in a corpus or Lexical units to an online-lexicon or to separate the different levels of the grammatical description. The possibility has been raised to describe the digital grammar with the TEI.

    • TEI LingSIG grant possible for creating documentaion TEI for linguistics / parallel corpora (Lou Burnard)
  • Martin Wynne [slides] "TEI or not TEI?" - presented by Piotr - focused on the advantages and disadvantages of using the TEI, with opinions coming from the heart of the CLARIN project, which has adopted it as one of its endorsed standards. The main question was whether it makes sense to use the TEI. The main disadvantages were the cost and complexity compromises to text integrity.

6. Closing remarks