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Attendees: Syd Bauman, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins,  Lisa McAulay (notetaker), Melanie Schlosser, Natasha Smith, Perry Willett, Glen Worthey
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Conference Call about Revising the TEI in Libraries Best Practice Guidelines
  
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'''1. Discuss options outlined by Michael Spurberg-McQueen for further work on Thutmouse now that we have the SIG grant'''
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'''1. SIG Grant for Thutmouse: Discuss options outlined by Michael Spurberg-McQueen for further work'''
  
 
'''DECISION:''' We agreed on option E for TEI-To-MARC mapping approach for the [http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:SIG-CFP-2010_Libraries-2.pdf#filelinks|SIG grant]
 
'''DECISION:''' We agreed on option E for TEI-To-MARC mapping approach for the [http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Image:SIG-CFP-2010_Libraries-2.pdf#filelinks|SIG grant]
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**Do we have a testing scenario for what Michael has already done?  
 
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**Kevin provided Michael 1,000 MARC records to test (see also January 16 email from Kevin)
 
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**We discussed how to handle comments on how the C & D portions of Thutmouse work; we agreed that we can compile feedback related to C & D aspects, even though we're not contracting Michael to do any further work on that. We'll probably have feedback, and if Michael can't work on them, we can save them for later work that may be funded for Michael to work on or that someone else will want to work on
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** Add support for all MARC fields mentioned in the Best Practices and for all three mapping variants (source, tei-from-source, and tei-from-digital). 
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members (see http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries)'''
  
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Syd registers a minority opinion. Discussion ensues.
 
Syd registers a minority opinion. Discussion ensues.

Revision as of 20:27, 3 June 2010


Conference Call about Revising the TEI in Libraries Best Practice Guidelines

Attendees: Syd Bauman, Michelle Dalmau, Kevin Hawkins, Lisa McAulay (notetaker), Melanie Schlosser, Natasha Smith, Perry Willett, Glen Worthey


1. SIG Grant for Thutmouse: Discuss options outlined by Michael Spurberg-McQueen for further work

DECISION: We agreed on option E for TEI-To-MARC mapping approach for the grant

ACTION ITEM: Kevin will contact Michael and let him know we choose Option E. Discussion overview

  • We discussed point "C" -- we agreed that 'beautification' is likely to be a losing battle (stripping punctuation marks, etc.) and it's better not to put time / effort into
  • Note that Option E includes only A & B (does not include C & D).
  • Brief discussion of thutmouse in general (see documentation)
    • Do we have a testing scenario for what Michael has already done?
    • Kevin provided Michael 1,000 MARC records to test (see also January 16 email from Kevin)
    • See also, tools page in TEI wiki
    • We discussed how to handle comments on how the C & D portions of Thutmouse work; we agreed that we can compile feedback related to C & D aspects, even though we're not contracting Michael to do any further work on that. We'll probably have feedback, and if Michael can't work on them, we can save them for later work that may be funded for Michael to work on or that someone else will want to work on
    • Add support for all MARC fields mentioned in the Best Practices and for all three mapping variants (source, tei-from-source, and tei-from-digital).
members (see http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Talk:Best_Practices_for_TEI_in_Libraries)

2. BPG document: Discussion of whether to Include All OR Select specific P5 attributes within <text>

DECISION: We will select specific attributes to include.

ACTION ITEM: Lisa will compile a list

  • For background, see link

Syd registers a minority opinion. Discussion ensues. Look at attributes we have used so far in the Best Practices. 438 attributes in TEI P5 -- some of these are repeats in different modules choosing what attributes we're going to allow in the TEI for Libraries BP Michelle will revise language to flag it as something we need to come back to. Lisa will take a first pass at the list of all attributes and strike through

    • publication statement structure link

Because publication statement is only used in File Description (i.e., NOT in Source Description), then there is no conflict here. The guidelines stand as they are.

    • <meeting> link (that section says there’s e-mail from Kevin on 10-12, but I haven’t found it yet — Syd)

Do we want to keep the meeting element or no? We agree to allow meeting in the teiHeader Discussion of where the meeting might occur in the MARC; Kevin will check in with Renne at UNC-Chapel Hill


    • <appInfo link (I think we may be able to just resolve this on the call — Syd)

It's not likely that this tag will be used. So, we will exclude. If someone wants to use it, they will need to say, "I'm using BPG Level 3 plus appInfo."

Michelle will do a draft on completing this section. (We're up to Minneapolis)


Michelle wrote some stuff up in the Talk page to develop this. Michelle tried teases out -- see the "pending review" Introductory Prose FYI, the Tite Spec is undergoing review. Level 3.5 = TEI Tite will be a sidebar Kevin will take a look at Michelle's revision. All please take a look at Michelle's revision. We don't know when TEI Tite will be a stable spec

    • hyphenation link (I think we may be able to just resolve this on the call — Syd)

Syd is going to revamp the ODDs, so we don't need to

  • Determine timeline

1st Deadline: have a call within the next two weeks; Please try to have your "to do" items done in time for the next call. Michelle will send out a Doodle poll. CDL can provide conferencing support for now; Perry will coordinate. Kevin will ask Michael whether having our work done by early fall will give him time enough to complete his work by the end of December 2010 (when we need to have spent the SIG grant money by). Michelle is going to talk to Rachel Frick (new leader of DLF) about continued support for the BPG group.

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