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* Feels that some notes can be moved down into a "table" footnote to explain the 533 and 534. | * Feels that some notes can be moved down into a "table" footnote to explain the 533 and 534. | ||
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+ | Kevin: | ||
+ | * Summarizes surrograte cataloging; 2 practices: | ||
+ | ** 533 field: the whole rest of the MARC record describes the source doc; give brief info about surrogate | ||
+ | ** 534 field: describes mostly the MARC the TEI document | ||
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+ | Glen: | ||
+ | * Our approach with best practices does not assume that a library does not have the source document; so it's better to have | ||
+ | the TEI document as the source for description (thus the 534 approach) | ||
+ | * Kevin also supports 534 | ||
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+ | * Only 3 fields left that have 533 mappings: date of pub for TEI document, seriesStmt title level ="f" and publisher of TEI document | ||
+ | * Renee can adjust the mappings if we all agree to treat the TEI document as source | ||
+ | * Our guidelines preference the electronic source, but we leave room for referencing the "source" | ||
+ | * Include original source as a footnote for internal consistency | ||
+ | * We don't need to change mappings. | ||
+ | * The three instances of 533 are only used in 3 cases with the parenthetical note. Use non-533 fields if you use the 534. | ||
+ | * Can only use one or the other; Kevin will make it clearer (534 v. 700s and 100s) | ||
+ | * Renee recommenda two tables, if based on source doc versus surrogate doc | ||
+ | * Kevin will split the cell with the MARC mapping; Glen agrees | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Encoded texts are not as identical as the original; need for separate metadata is more relevant | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Renee incorporated several of Vitus' suggestions (see her email) | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Syd Stuff== | ||
+ | Extent: | ||
+ | * extent element; only in mss description module of the TEI to encode extent in more machine readable way | ||
+ | * it may not matter which way it went; chris powell worries the MARC metadata will be messy (based on her extensive experience) | ||
+ | * so no need to break out the extent further | ||
+ | * Kevin read AACR, following rules, strings can be parsed out (due to punctuation). It should be quite clear. | ||
+ | * Michelle suggests to add this to list of future revisions; explore case studies | ||
+ | * Concern about intro. elements from manu. dss. | ||
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+ | Refs: | ||
+ | * notes: how ref points to notes; target attribute on note element or on the ref element? | ||
+ | * bi-directional linking should be supported | ||
+ | * we agree on the direction of pointing; from ref to note (and not vice-versa) | ||
+ | * still waiting for syd to ID where in the P5 it says we should do notes a certain way. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Pending List to Syd: | ||
+ | * editor, role | ||
+ | * proof ref/key attributes | ||
+ | * check hypenation text | ||
+ | * 2 letter v. 3 letter language codes | ||
+ | * pointing to outside metadata | ||
+ | * level 4 Hiss example; root element has a bunch of attributes, but not in other sample docs | ||
+ | * Kevin re-wrote the section on notes from Level 3; group should have a look at that | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Wrap Up== | ||
+ | * If any issues require group weigh-in, we'll do it over email or setup a call in early July. | ||
+ | * Glen: Hiss examples; for level 4, there's only one extra attribute xml:ns and xml:id on root | ||
+ | ** Kevin: should we also have an ID at the root? | ||
+ | ** Can add a recommendation in the general table above the Header for a unique identifier in the TEI root (in xml:id) | ||
+ | ** Do we need both the idno and xml:id root | ||
+ | ** Header can be removed from body for metadata interchange | ||
+ | ** Ask Syd what he thinks about idno v. xml:id | ||
+ | ** We may not need it in both places | ||
+ | ** Glen raises the issue that workflow or process may rely on xml:id more so than IDNO; Michelle supports | ||
+ | ** Kevin suggests IDNO is mandatory; xml:id in the root element is recommended |
Latest revision as of 19:48, 30 June 2009
Attendees: Renee, Glen, Rich, Kevin, Michelle
TEI Header Mapping
Renee:
- Changes based on Vitus' comments
- MARC record for the TEI document is based on the TEI document (534 field)
- Renee incorp. Vitus' suggestions; needed to account in the mapping for two approaches for cataloging the TEI doc
- 533 field to capture as reproduction
- Cataloging microfilm repro. of the book; body of the bib. record represents the book; the 533 captures the microfilm portion
- 534 field to capture the TEI document; the TEI description is based on the TEI document solely
- 533 field to capture as reproduction
- Renee's personal preference is that we get a more consistent description base the description on the TEI document; use 534 field
in the source document
- 533 accomodates limited metadata about the reproduction
Glen:
- 533 is structured?
- Has subfields.
- Do 533 and 534 have parallel structures?
Glen:
- Feels that some notes can be moved down into a "table" footnote to explain the 533 and 534.
Kevin:
- Summarizes surrograte cataloging; 2 practices:
- 533 field: the whole rest of the MARC record describes the source doc; give brief info about surrogate
- 534 field: describes mostly the MARC the TEI document
Glen:
- Our approach with best practices does not assume that a library does not have the source document; so it's better to have
the TEI document as the source for description (thus the 534 approach)
- Kevin also supports 534
- Only 3 fields left that have 533 mappings: date of pub for TEI document, seriesStmt title level ="f" and publisher of TEI document
- Renee can adjust the mappings if we all agree to treat the TEI document as source
- Our guidelines preference the electronic source, but we leave room for referencing the "source"
- Include original source as a footnote for internal consistency
- We don't need to change mappings.
- The three instances of 533 are only used in 3 cases with the parenthetical note. Use non-533 fields if you use the 534.
- Can only use one or the other; Kevin will make it clearer (534 v. 700s and 100s)
- Renee recommenda two tables, if based on source doc versus surrogate doc
- Kevin will split the cell with the MARC mapping; Glen agrees
- Encoded texts are not as identical as the original; need for separate metadata is more relevant
- Renee incorporated several of Vitus' suggestions (see her email)
Syd Stuff
Extent:
- extent element; only in mss description module of the TEI to encode extent in more machine readable way
- it may not matter which way it went; chris powell worries the MARC metadata will be messy (based on her extensive experience)
- so no need to break out the extent further
- Kevin read AACR, following rules, strings can be parsed out (due to punctuation). It should be quite clear.
- Michelle suggests to add this to list of future revisions; explore case studies
- Concern about intro. elements from manu. dss.
Refs:
- notes: how ref points to notes; target attribute on note element or on the ref element?
- bi-directional linking should be supported
- we agree on the direction of pointing; from ref to note (and not vice-versa)
- still waiting for syd to ID where in the P5 it says we should do notes a certain way.
Pending List to Syd:
- editor, role
- proof ref/key attributes
- check hypenation text
- 2 letter v. 3 letter language codes
- pointing to outside metadata
- level 4 Hiss example; root element has a bunch of attributes, but not in other sample docs
- Kevin re-wrote the section on notes from Level 3; group should have a look at that
Wrap Up
- If any issues require group weigh-in, we'll do it over email or setup a call in early July.
- Glen: Hiss examples; for level 4, there's only one extra attribute xml:ns and xml:id on root
- Kevin: should we also have an ID at the root?
- Can add a recommendation in the general table above the Header for a unique identifier in the TEI root (in xml:id)
- Do we need both the idno and xml:id root
- Header can be removed from body for metadata interchange
- Ask Syd what he thinks about idno v. xml:id
- We may not need it in both places
- Glen raises the issue that workflow or process may rely on xml:id more so than IDNO; Michelle supports
- Kevin suggests IDNO is mandatory; xml:id in the root element is recommended