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The TEI Ontologies SIG held an open meeting during the ACH/ALLC
 
The TEI Ontologies SIG held an open meeting during the ACH/ALLC
Conference in Victoria,
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Conference in Victoria, Canada, on June 15, 2005. Six persons were participating.
  Canada, on June 15, 2005. Six persons were participating.
 
 
    
 
    
  Introduction
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=== Introduction ===
 
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  In the minutes from the lest meeting, two groups of tasks were set up:
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In the minutes from the lest meeting, two groups of tasks were set up:
    1. Tasks the conveners promised to do in 2004 and 2005
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    2. Tasks we agreed should be done, but with no appointed person
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1. Tasks the conveners promised to do in 2004 and 2005
      responsible
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2. Tasks we agreed should be done, but with no appointed person responsible
  The tasks in group 1 are all on-going or finished, while of the tasks
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  in group 2, only the identification of elements in TEI with
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The tasks in group 1 are all on-going or finished, while of the tasks
  "ontological relevance" (more on this expression below) is started.
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in group 2, only the identification of elements in TEI with
 
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"ontological relevance" (more on this expression below) is started.
  Motivation
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=== Motivation ===
  As a motivation for his interest in this work, Øyvind Eide described a
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  project in which an analysis of relationships between person name
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As a motivation for his interest in this work, Øyvind Eide described a
  elements in a TEI document was modeled in CIDOC-CRM. This work was
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project in which an analysis of relationships between person name
  discussed by the group, together with some aspects of the CIDOC-CRM
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elements in a TEI document was modeled in CIDOC-CRM. This work was
  model.
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discussed by the group, together with some aspects of the CIDOC-CRM
 
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model.
  The group agreed on the general idea that there are things, such as
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  relationships between persons, that should be modeled outside TEI, but
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The group agreed on the general idea that there are things, such as
  with a possibility for links to TEI documents.
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relationships between persons, that should be modeled outside TEI, but
 
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with a possibility for links to TEI documents.
  Identification of TEI element
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=== Identification of TEI element ===
  This item was presented to the group as "Identifying TEI elements of
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  special ontological interest". This initiated a discussion, because
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This item was presented to the group as "Identifying TEI elements of
  the group rejected the wording. Several other phrases were suggested
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special ontological interest". This initiated a discussion, because
  to replace "special ontological interest", among them "extra-textual
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the group rejected the wording. Several other phrases were suggested
  (ontological) interest" and "references to the physical world". None
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to replace "special ontological interest", among them "extra-textual
  of these truly covers what we want to express, though.
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(ontological) interest" and "references to the physical world". None
 
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of these truly covers what we want to express, though.
  Nevertheless, there were an common general understanding about what
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  kind of elements we were talking about: Elements such as names, date
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Nevertheless, there were an common general understanding about what
  and performances of plays, while elements such as italics, stanza and
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kind of elements we were talking about: Elements such as names, date
  paragraphs are outside the scope of this SIG.
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and performances of plays, while elements such as italics, stanza and
 
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paragraphs are outside the scope of this SIG.
  Time did not permit any actual investigation into which elements in
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  TEI are of interest.
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Time did not permit any actual investigation into which elements in
 
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TEI are of interest.
  The on-going work in the FRBR/CIDOC-CRM Harmonization Group was
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  discussed. It was argued that the TEI community should be involved in
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The on-going work in the FRBR/CIDOC-CRM Harmonization Group was
  this work.
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discussed. It was argued that the TEI community should be involved in
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this work.
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Revision as of 16:33, 12 December 2005

Introduction

In May and June 2004, there was a discussion on the TEI mailing list about prosopographical tags. This lead to a suggestion that detailed information about persons (physical and legal), dates, events, places, objects etc. and their interpretation could be marked up outside the text, and that this could be connected in on-going ontology work being done e.g. in the Museum community, such as the Conceptual Reference Model (CIDOK-CRM). The result of this was the establishment of a Ontologies SIG at the 4th annual members meeting of TEI in October 2004.

The SIG runs a mailing list on this topic. To join, send a message to tei-ontology-sig-request@lists.sourceforge.net with the word SUBSCRIBE in the header or the body of the email.

The SIG is convened by Øyvind Eide, of the Unit for Digital Documentation at the University of Oslo, and Christian-Emil Ore, of the Unit for Digital Documentation at the University of Oslo, who is also the chair of The International Committee for Documentation of the International Council of Museums (ICOM-CIDOC).


Open meeting on June 15 2005

The TEI Ontologies SIG held an open meeting during the ACH/ALLC Conference in Victoria, Canada, on June 15, 2005. Six persons were participating.

Introduction

In the minutes from the lest meeting, two groups of tasks were set up:

1. Tasks the conveners promised to do in 2004 and 2005

2. Tasks we agreed should be done, but with no appointed person responsible

The tasks in group 1 are all on-going or finished, while of the tasks in group 2, only the identification of elements in TEI with "ontological relevance" (more on this expression below) is started.

Motivation

As a motivation for his interest in this work, Øyvind Eide described a project in which an analysis of relationships between person name elements in a TEI document was modeled in CIDOC-CRM. This work was discussed by the group, together with some aspects of the CIDOC-CRM model.

The group agreed on the general idea that there are things, such as relationships between persons, that should be modeled outside TEI, but with a possibility for links to TEI documents.

Identification of TEI element

This item was presented to the group as "Identifying TEI elements of special ontological interest". This initiated a discussion, because the group rejected the wording. Several other phrases were suggested to replace "special ontological interest", among them "extra-textual (ontological) interest" and "references to the physical world". None of these truly covers what we want to express, though.

Nevertheless, there were an common general understanding about what kind of elements we were talking about: Elements such as names, date and performances of plays, while elements such as italics, stanza and paragraphs are outside the scope of this SIG.

Time did not permit any actual investigation into which elements in TEI are of interest.

The on-going work in the FRBR/CIDOC-CRM Harmonization Group was discussed. It was argued that the TEI community should be involved in this work.

2005-08-01 Øyvind Eide